Windows 10: File Explorer jump list doesn't consistently show location popups

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  1.    25 Sep 2016 #1

    File Explorer jump list doesn't consistently show location popups


    Anyone else have this issue?

    When right-clicking File Explorer in the taskbar, a jump list appears, showing pinned and recent folders or locations. Mousing over these items should cause a small text popup to appear above the item that shows the full system path of the location:

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    The problem is the popups do not appear consistently. In some instances, they'll appear, in others they simply won't. They either appear immediately or not at all. Repeatedly right clicking the File Explorer icon and checking, the popups may work several times consecutively before they don't. It seems completely random and unpredictable.

    The reason the feature is important to me is I often work with different subfolders with the same name that are located in different parent folders. When I see multiple instances of these subfolders with the same name, there is no way to know which parent directory they're from unless the popups with the full path appears on mouse-over. Without the popups, it becomes a guessing game.

    This behavior occurs on multiple computers running Windows 10. Some are upgrades from Windows 7. Others are brand new OEMs with Windows 10 pre-installed.

    Any ideas?
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       26 Sep 2016 #2

    That is not File Explorer that you are looking at. That is just recent items that you have been to in Windows Explorer, which is tied into IE and Edge. If you are talking about the balloon pop-ups, that is controlled in the preferences when you right click on the Taskbar, also in Files in Control Panel and in the desktop settings when you right click on the computer on the desktop or choose System in Control Panel.
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  3.    26 Sep 2016 #3

    Thanks for your reply.

    Whatever "it" is exactly, all I know is, it does not behave consistently. This is so across multiple systems. Also, it isn't just recent items, but pinned items that fail to produce the popup on mouse over (when they should).

    If the File Explorer setting you're referring to is "Show pop-up description for folder and desktop items," I already have that turned on.

    Based on my tests, I tend to think this is a bug. Did you try reproducing it?

    1. Right click File Explorer in taskbar to open the jump list.
    2. Mouse over any of the pinned or recent folders and see if the popup with the location path appears (as shown in the screenshot with the original post).
    3. If it does appear, close out of the jump list by left clicking anywhere outside of it.
    4. Repeat steps 1-3 until you find the popups not appearing. In my experience, it always occurs, even if not right away. And all too often when I need them most.
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       26 Sep 2016 #4

    You are correct. There have been some really odd issues with the latest updates being pushed for 1607 AU. Some are thinking about rolling back to 1511, since they did not have these issues with that edition.
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  5.    27 Sep 2016 #5

    I've observed this issue in both 1511 and 1607.

    The only semblance of a trend is that the rate of occurrence is highest on a system where Windows and user data (and thus the locations in File Explorer) are on separate drives. There, the occurrence is probably around 70%. On systems where both Windows and data are on the same drive, the occurrence seems far less, perhaps anywhere from 10-40%.

    I don't recall having this issue in Windows 7.

    Anyone else able to confirm this issue in Windows 10? I've already confirmed it on five PCs (3 upgrades to Win 10, 2 brand new OEM pre-installs; 4 desktops, one laptop).
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       27 Sep 2016 #6

    The reason that the problem did not exist in Windows 7, is because they had not yet gone in and made the interface into a Tablet GUI. With 8 and 10 using GUI's that are written specifically for use on the Surface and other Windows capable tablets, you will see issues. That is why everyone that does not have a tablet uses Classic Shell or Start10.
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       28 Sep 2016 #7

    Tooltip info not appearing has occurred on every Windows OS (XP, W7 & W10) I've installed during the last 12 years.
    I can't remember if it happened when I ran W98SE.

    Even Linux Distros aren't immune (Ubuntu & Linux Mint).
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  8. bro67's Avatar
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       28 Sep 2016 #8

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Tooltip info not appearing has occurred on every Windows OS (XP, W7 & W10) I've installed during the last 12 years.
    I can't remember if it happened when I ran W98SE.

    Even Linux Distros aren't immune (Ubuntu & Linux Mint).
    Ubuntu's garbage gui and Cinnamon are really bad, next to the Mate Gui. The tooltips and balloons can be hidden via registry or third party utilities.
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       29 Sep 2016 #9

    bro67 said: View Post
    Ubuntu's garbage gui and Cinnamon are really bad, next to the Mate Gui. The tooltips and balloons can be hidden via registry or third party utilities.
    I meant intermittently.
    Most of the time the tooltips appear.

    When I couldn't get my ATI graphics card to work properly in Ubuntu 10.04, I swapped to Linux Mint MATE (because of Unity).
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       29 Sep 2016 #10

    I went with Mint on the laptop that I was using up until I replaced it with this one. After their version 18 was released, it caused nothing but headaches. That was when I got the Macbook. I tried Mate on the Raspberry Pi 3 that I have to toy around with. The GUI is just too much of a heavy weight for it, vs. the Raspbian.

    I do so much on the CLI side with Linux for servers, I do not even both loading up a GUI, unless it is for a workstation that I am trying to do cross testing of software.
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