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  1.    20 Sep 2016 #11
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    New Mexico
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdTittel View Post
    Let me expand on Mystere's "start menu replacement" suggestion. I use Stardock's Start10 ($5 per seat, occasional coupons and discounts available). I also use the Windows 7 style menu (as I did with Windows 8 and 8.1). My family members don't even know it's running and they've never complained about the desktop in either OS. Highly recommended, and worth every penny of the cost.
    --Ed--

    I tried Stardock once but I never could figure out how to get the right click function of the start menu to work. I really like how the right click brings up all of those helpful functions.
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  2.    20 Sep 2016 #12
    Join Date : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I tried Stardock once but I never could figure out how to get the right click function of the start menu to work. I really like how the right click brings up all of those helpful functions.
    I don't think you get to keep the right click of the original win10 start after you install Startdock, you just go to control panel instead ,but I could be wrong ,only 3rd party start app I ever tried was classic shell
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  3.    20 Sep 2016 #13
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    pokeefe0001:
    I don't use Start of starting programs - I use desktop icons.
    remoat:
    great, pokeefe -- i have maybe 80-100 user-installed programs; you think im putting that many icons on a desktop? REALLY? i keep 12 icons on the desktop.. those i use most of the time.. i prefer an orderly, neat appearance.. hey, if you want your desktop to look like "times square" on new year's eve, fine.. so, getting back to the original issue, is there a solution to having a clutter of s'ware cluttering my start button look? i guess i could revert to my system's status before installation of the "fix"..
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  4.    20 Sep 2016 #14
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 5
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    Thread Starter

    ROCKY:
    But to be totally honest, I never experienced the scenario that you described with my start menu after I installed the Anniversary Edition. Even after the clean install of 1607 my start menu still did not have that complete list that you described.

    REMOAT:
    to be totally honest, where could you download a "legit" version of windows 10 -- 1607, WITHOUT at least seeing, if not agreeing with, what i saw? others have posted the same experience with this "fix": additions to the start menu that were previously available, if not automatically "put out there", like now.. really, how could you encounter a "legit" version of the windows "fix" without seeing the user programs being listed .. maybe the change in the start menu doesnt bother you, okay, i can see that, but to say you never saw the user programs being displayed, well, it just doesnt "jell".. others have seen what i report, but you do not? how is that?
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  5.    20 Sep 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Yes, this was a major change in the start menu functionality. MS keeps tweaking the start menu based on user feedback.

    Unfortunately, you can never get 100% of the people to agree to any change, so there will always be some set of users that don't like it. If you happen to be one of those people, it sucks, but you've been outvoted. If you want a say in how Windows 10 is developed, then you should join the Insider program and participate in the feedback forum. This particular change has been in the Insider build for several months, and there was plenty of news articles about it. You had opportunity to comment to Microsoft, but did not.

    That either means that A) how windows is designed really doesn't matter to you or B) doesn't matter enough for you to bother to participate. Either way, complaining after the fact isn't particularly beneficial.

    There are two solutions to your problem, however. First, you can enable full screen mode. That will make the all apps menu minimized by default, but you may not like the full screen mode.

    The second is to get a start menu replacement, many of which have numerous ways you can have your start menu laid out.
    OKAY, i get it now, "mystere" has really laid it out for me.. ITS ALL MY FAULT.. I AM NEGLIGENT FROM DAY ONE.. I HAVE FAILED IN MY ATTEMPTS TO USE MY PC FULLY BY NOT JOINING, SUBSCRIBING, RESEARCHING, ETC., ALL AVAILABLE VENUES TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE about whatever it is that confronts me.. oh, yes, its on me.. i should schedule my activities to accommodate learning a.m.a.p. (as much as possible) about upcoming changes to windows.. hey, mystere, are you nuts? REALLY? i post a message about an admittedly minor issue with windows 10, because im just looking for some informal advice, and you admonish me by saying that i should have requested admission into an advisory for windows users? REALLY? well, gee, if we all did that, why would we need FORUMS? if we all become "geeks" why would we seek out help? we know it all, right? JEEZ! really, mystere, that is insulting.. who are you to "upbraid" ANYONE as to what they OUGHT to have done in the first place? maybe eve shouldn't have tempted adam with the fruit of the forbidden tree; maybe caine OUGHT'NT to have killed ABEL.. maybe i OUGHT to have found a way to foresee winning lottery numbers in each state with a lottery.. do you have a website for that advisory group? PLEASE, next time you see my username in this forum asking a question, just pass me by, o.k.? your hubris is one fact of life i can do without REALLY!
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  6.    20 Sep 2016 #16
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
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    Quote Originally Posted by remoat View Post
    OKAY, i get it now, "mystere" has really laid it out for me.. ITS ALL MY FAULT.. I AM NEGLIGENT FROM DAY ONE.. I HAVE FAILED IN MY ATTEMPTS TO USE MY PC FULLY BY NOT JOINING, SUBSCRIBING, RESEARCHING, ETC., ALL AVAILABLE VENUES TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE about whatever it is that confronts me.. oh, yes, its on me.. i should schedule my activities to accommodate learning a.m.a.p. (as much as possible) about upcoming changes to windows.. hey, mystere, are you nuts? REALLY? i post a message about an admittedly minor issue with windows 10, because im just looking for some informal advice, and you admonish me by saying that i should have requested admission into an advisory for windows users? REALLY? well, gee, if we all did that, why would we need FORUMS? if we all become "geeks" why would we seek out help? we know it all, right? JEEZ! really, mystere, that is insulting.. who are you to "upbraid" ANYONE as to what they OUGHT to have done in the first place? maybe eve shouldn't have tempted adam with the fruit of the forbidden tree; maybe caine OUGHT'NT to have killed ABEL.. maybe i OUGHT to have found a way to foresee winning lottery numbers in each state with a lottery.. do you have a website for that advisory group? PLEASE, next time you see my username in this forum asking a question, just pass me by, o.k.? your hubris is one fact of life i can do without REALLY!
    For someone that started this thread with a highly sarcastic and vitriolic rant, you seem to be able to dish it out, but not take it. YOU were the person accusing Microsoft of not bothering to get anyones feedback about anything before making changes. I pointed out (and rightfully so) that there was plenty of opportunity for you to give that feedback, if you had really cared (which you appear to be reinforcing that you really didn't).

    You also seem to have failed to notice that I actually gave you advice on how to fix the issue.
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  7.    21 Sep 2016 #17
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Settings > Personalization > Start
    Settings > System > Tablet Mode
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