Win 10 Anniversary Update 1607 - The Worst Ever?

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       #51

    I'm so glad that shobhitk has sorted himself out with last November's version of Windows 10, and he is a happy bunnikins - I hope it serves his largely mystery hardware setup well for years to come.

    Windows 10 caters for almost everybody, it seems.
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  2. Posts : 4,224
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       #52

    It's enough to make you want to glug down the contents of the Jug of Issek, ain't it? Nice summation, Fafhrd!
    --Ed--
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       #53

    Fafhrd said:
    I'm so glad that shobhitk has sorted himself out with last November's version of Windows 10, and he is a happy bunnikins - I hope it serves his largely mystery hardware setup well for years to come.

    Windows 10 caters for almost everybody, it seems.
    I could be misreading your tone, but I think you are being a bit unfair in your evaluation. The average Windows user would not expect the problems shobhitk had, and, I suspect, would not have been as capable of dealing with them. Most non-techie users have no idea whether they are using obsolete hardware. If Windows lets them upgrade, why should they not expect the result to work well? And how would the majority of users - those not reading these forums - ever expect that the solution of choice for problem following an upgrade is a clean reinstall? That's something for the IT department, not the average user.

    I suspect most of the regulars on this forum really enjoy rooting around under the covers of Windows, but I suspect most users wouldn't even know if they had a wireless adapter, let alone know whether their driver was current.

    Shobhitk at least had the sense to turn to this forum for help. Starting off with a rant may not have been the best move, but he eventually settled down and tried solving the problem. Hopefully he'll turn to this forum again when he finally has to upgrade because he has not seen the last of this problem.
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  4. Posts : 1,345
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       #54

    @pokeefe0001 “The average Windows user would not expect the problems shobhitk had, and, I suspect, would not have been as capable of dealing with them. Most non-techie users have no idea whether they are using obsolete hardware. If Windows lets them upgrade, why should they not expect the result to work well?” Very well said.
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  5. Posts : 51
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       #55

    pokeefe0001 said:
    There was one piece of advice that should have been given right away but, I think, didn't show up until today: Clean install. (I'm embarrassed to admit I didn't think of it ... for you or for me!)

    The upgrade-in-place is not perfect; it leaves garbage around. Some people experience no problems; other people end up with nearly dead systems. It's not Microsoft's fault - the upgrade-in-place process cannot possibly know which bits of non-Microsoft code is dependent on the underlying OS code and which is not.

    The bottom line: when you have odd or unexpected errors, you made need to do a clean install.

    A clean install can be a royal pain if you have lots of non-Windows products installed. (It usually takes me an hour or 2 to do the actual install and customization, the rest of the day to install and test the the important programs I need, and a week to run into all the less important things I forgot to reinstall.) But things (usually) work much better after a clean install. Consider it when you finallyhave need to upgrade.
    I agree with every word you said. Currently i dont have that much time to do a clean install. But yes that is the ultimate solution, atleast i hope so!

    pokeefe0001 said:
    I could be misreading your tone, but I think you are being a bit unfair in your evaluation. The average Windows user would not expect the problems shobhitk had, and, I suspect, would not have been as capable of dealing with them. Most non-techie users have no idea whether they are using obsolete hardware. If Windows lets them upgrade, why should they not expect the result to work well? And how would the majority of users - those not reading these forums - ever expect that the solution of choice for problem following an upgrade is a clean reinstall? That's something for the IT department, not the average user.

    I suspect most of the regulars on this forum really enjoy rooting around under the covers of Windows, but I suspect most users wouldn't even know if they had a wireless adapter, let alone know whether their driver was current.

    Shobhitk at least had the sense to turn to this forum for help. Starting off with a rant may not have been the best move, but he eventually settled down and tried solving the problem. Hopefully he'll turn to this forum again when he finally has to upgrade because he has not seen the last of this problem.
    So nice of you pokeefe :)

    Well this thread witnessed differnet levels and classes of ranting...lol..let it be pokeefe.
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  6. Posts : 1,983
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       #56

    EdTittel said:
    It's enough to make you want to glug down the contents of the Jug of Issek, ain't it? Nice summation, Fafhrd!
    --Ed--
    Issek did not just die on the rack, but broke seven racks before expiring on the eighth, and even then he broke loose and broke the thick brass band of office from around his torturer’s neck and fashioned it into a beautiful symbol of the Jug before his spirit departed.

    I know how he must have felt!
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  7. Posts : 51
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       #57

    I guess this thread has been marked as Solved by the mods.

    It has to be kept in mind that the problems themselves did not get cured. I had to simply switch to the older build for getting things to work. So if you ask me whether the things are back to normal, then i would say yes, but if you ask me whether the issues were resolved, then i would say no.

    But yes if you look at it from the perspective of the OP (ie. me), then you may say that the issue is closed for the time being :)
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  8. Posts : 51
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       #58

    Guys good news. I Clean Installed the AU and the system is running perfectly! No hardware errors and no boot errors. Everything is fast and zippy....Simply Perfect!
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  9. Posts : 15,037
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  10. Posts : 1,366
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       #60

    shobhitk said:
    Guys good news. I Clean Installed the AU and the system is running perfectly! No hardware errors and no boot errors. Everything is fast and zippy....Simply Perfect!
    I was going to type in something smartassy about how it was the worst ever, but it's Friday and I'm in a good mood! Clean installs work wonders because they eliminate so many variables of what COULD go wrong. They always give your computer the best chance at running well. Glad to hear it turned out that way for you....honestly!
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