Windows 10: Migrating from a Windows 10 pc to a Windows 8.1 PC?

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  1. Posts : 3,590
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       22 Aug 2016 #21

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    That computer would be able to run Windows 10 very well. It isn't high end, which makes me think you WAY overpaid for it, though. I would have valued that computer at $400-$500, not $900, and that would be new, not refurbished.

    Either way, you own it now, so Windows 10 wouldn't be anything to fear. It's free, simple to upgrade, and would run very well.

    As for moving the data, a simple flash drive or external drive is your simplest way.
    That is how I see it. My dad got a newer Off Lease Quad Core for under $300 from newegg.com.
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  2.    22 Aug 2016 #22

    MoxieMomma said: View Post
    Hi:

    You wrote:


    Having offsite, cloud data backup is good (especially if one's house burns down, taking out one's computers AND one's local USB backup drives).

    But I hope you do not plan to try to restore a LOT of data backed-up at Carbonite from Computer 1 to Computer 2.
    Depending on your speed/bandwidth of your ISP, it might take a VERY long, long time to pull down an entire computer's worth of data from Carbonite onto the new system. Your data download may be throttled by your ISP.
    I regard it as a "backup plan of last resort" for that reason.
    There are probably more efficient means to migrate the data from old computer to new computer, e.g. through your own network or through the use of an external USB hard drive, or through some sort of Easy Transfer Cable (if those still work for Win10).

    Also, you will want to contact Carbonite if you plan to transfer the license from the old computer to the new one.
    Carbonite WILL transfer the remaining days on your old computer license to your new computer license.
    I just went through that process when I retired a Win7 box and bought a new Win10 box.
    I did not transfer the backup files (though you can do that). I transferred the old license to the new computer. They were very helpful and it saved me ~3 months of time on my old license.

    It sounds more complicated than it is.

    Bottom line:
    >>Downloading/restoring a lot of data from Carbonite to get your old computer's files onto the new computer will be very time-consuming. There may be more efficient ways to do that.
    >>I suggest contacting Carbonite to get the license and/or backups transferred. In my experience, it's most easily done on the phone.

    MM
    I also have an ESATA BlacX bay that I plug hard drives into, and do mirrors. Then they can have full speed access into my PC.
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  3.    22 Aug 2016 #23

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    That computer would be able to run Windows 10 very well. It isn't high end, which makes me think you WAY overpaid for it, though. I would have valued that computer at $400-$500, not $900, and that would be new, not refurbished.
    Amazon.com: ASUS Desktop Computer M32BC-B01 AMD FX-Series FX-8310 (3.40 GHz) 8 GB DDR3 2 TB HDD AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB GPU Windows 8.1 64-Bit: Computers Accessories

    Either way, you own it now, so Windows 10 wouldn't be anything to fear. It's free, simple to upgrade, and would run very well.
    Jeez, the Windows 10 experience with upgrading this present PC scared the living daylights out of me. I don't need that again! I'm terrified of Windows 10 now!

    As for moving the data, a simple flash drive or external drive is your simplest way.
    I have an ESATA interface with a BlacX on this PC, which I use for mirror backups to raw hard drives. I keep a couple of them in the fire safe.

    It's funny, but it kind of reminds me of the care with which Jewish people treat their Torahs - those sacred scrolls that they have in the temples, which they'd save if the temple was burning down? But when you think about it, this is my computing life on this thing.
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       22 Aug 2016 #24

    MamaBear said: View Post
    I also have an ESATA BlacX bay that I plug hard drives into, and do mirrors. Then they can have full speed access into my PC.
    I have one of those and when I needed it, it was invaluable.

    Assuming you're going to keep Windows 8.1, take the hard drive out of your old computer and stick it into the BlacX. Hook the BlacX up to the new computer and transfer the data from the old hard drive onto the new computer.

    As for your programs and apps, for the most part, they won't transfer; hopefully you still have the CDs/DVDs and Product Keys for those.
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       22 Aug 2016 #25

    @MamaBear

    As I told you, every Windows 7 computer I've upgraded to Windows 10 had problems and only a clean install would fix things. However, every Windows 8.1 computer I've upgraded to Windows 10 has gone pretty well, although I'm of the old school that an upgrade takes along the problems, so a clean install is in order, no matter which upgrade path.

    I got things a little bit backward; you should first install your programs and apps before transferring your data, just in case it may make a difference somehow.

    Also, if I remember correctly, in the past (a long time ago), I have put the "old" hard drive into the new computer and run my programs from there. That said, I'm not sure the old hard drive wouldn't try to boot, since I haven't done it in awhile.

    One of the other guys may be able to enlighten both of us on that. If you can get that to work, that would be fantastic. Hmmmmmm, wheels are turning . . . What if, while you have the old drive in the BlacX, you tried to open one of your programs? It may be worth a try.
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  6.    23 Aug 2016 #26

    I just got a notice from Ebay that AFTER I won the auction and PAID the seller the $300 for that PC, they canceled it without my permission and refunded my money, claiming that it wasn't available anymore. This is the second time something like this has happened, in about 6 months, and I'm getting sick of it. I THINK the seller didn't get any other bids and was planning on selling it for more, so they copped out. I filed a complaint with Ebay and it "dings" their account, according to Ebay. ( slap on the wrist ) But it's getting to where I don't trust that if I buy something on Ebay and get a good deal, that I'll actually get what I paid for. Now I have to regroup and see what to do.

    I was looking forward to a new PC.

    Disgusted in Denver

    But there may be an upside to this. From what you all are saying, if I were to find a refurbed PC like this, with Windows 10 pre-installed, I wouldn't likely have problems like that boot failure?

    Then could I easily transfer these rare programs to it ( I still have the install disks and package for AutoCAD 2002, by the way ) and it would be fine?
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    Mac OS Sierra
       23 Aug 2016 #27

    They do not need your permission to cancel the auction. They are required to return the winning bid money if they are unable to come through. Newegg has been dropping prices on gear for almost 80% off on some. They have 3rd party sellers that use their website, just like Amazon & Best Buy.

    Even the OEM's are selling systems that are what you want at the price you are looking to pay.

    I do not really think that your old software is going to run on Windows 10, because it no longer contains the dinosaur code of Windows 95, 98, NT4, NT2000. If you want to use those old programs, you may want to use a Hot Swap bay for which OS you want to use.
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  8.    23 Aug 2016 #28

    bro67 said: View Post
    They do not need your permission to cancel the auction. They are required to return the winning bid money if they are unable to come through. Newegg has been dropping prices on gear for almost 80% off on some. They have 3rd party sellers that use their website, just like Amazon & Best Buy.

    Even the OEM's are selling systems that are what you want at the price you are looking to pay.

    I do not really think that your old software is going to run on Windows 10, because it no longer contains the dinosaur code of Windows 95, 98, NT4, NT2000. If you want to use those old programs, you may want to use a Hot Swap bay for which OS you want to use.
    I'm running them now - AutoCAD 2002 and Dazzle Envelope Manager 2002 - on this PC that has been upgraded from Win 7 to Windows 10. They run fine, without even needing compatibility mode.
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  9.    23 Aug 2016 #29

    MamaBear said: View Post
    We don't even want to taint the new one, or botch it up with Windows 10.

    What we MAY do, come to think of it, is revert the old one, which has had Windows 10 since 7-24, back to Win 7.

    Then, will it move things better, to 8.1?
    Why do you want to stay with Win 8.1?????

    Jeff
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  10.    23 Aug 2016 #30

    jeffrys said: View Post
    Why do you want to stay with Win 8.1?????

    Jeff
    Wouldn't be staying with it. Please read the thread.
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