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  1. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 100
    Windows 10
       21 Aug 2016 #11

    I just picked up a NEW one of these for myself, on Ebay - 100% seller with Ebay buyer guarantee:

    ASUS M32BC-B01 Part Number 90PD0171-M00090 Type Student/Home office Form Factor Tower

    Usage Consumer Colors Black
    ProcessorAMD FX-8310 3.4 GHz


    Processor Main Features 64 bit 8-Core Processor

    Cache Per Processor 8 MB L3 Cache

    Memory 8 GB DDR3 1600

    Storage 2 TB SATA 7200 RPM

    Optical Drive


    SuperMulti DVD RW



    Graphics AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB

    Ethernet

    Gigabit Ethernet

    Power Supply 300W

    Operating System Windows 8.1 64-Bit

    CPU Type

    AMD FX-Series
    CPU Speed FX-8310 (3.40 GHz)

    L3 Cache Per CPU 8 MB

    CPU Main Features 64 bit 8-Core Processor

    GPU/VGA Type AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB

    Memory Capacity 8 GB DDR3

    Memory Speed DDR3 1600

    Memory Slot (Total)2


    Now all I need to figure out is how to get my old now-Windows 10 PC over to it. I think I have 2 more days to revert to Win 7, if I want to take that chance.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,665
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       21 Aug 2016 #12

    MamaBear said: View Post
    I just picked up a NEW one of these for myself, on Ebay - 100% seller with Ebay buyer guarantee:

    ASUS M32BC-B01 Part Number 90PD0171-M00090 Type Student/Home office Form Factor Tower

    Usage Consumer Colors Black
    ProcessorAMD FX-8310 3.4 GHz


    Processor Main Features 64 bit 8-Core Processor

    Cache Per Processor 8 MB L3 Cache

    Memory 8 GB DDR3 1600

    Storage 2 TB SATA 7200 RPM

    Optical Drive


    SuperMulti DVD RW



    Graphics AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB

    Ethernet

    Gigabit Ethernet

    Power Supply 300W

    Operating System Windows 8.1 64-Bit

    CPU Type

    AMD FX-Series
    CPU Speed FX-8310 (3.40 GHz)

    L3 Cache Per CPU 8 MB

    CPU Main Features 64 bit 8-Core Processor

    GPU/VGA Type AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB

    Memory Capacity 8 GB DDR3

    Memory Speed DDR3 1600

    Memory Slot (Total)2


    Now all I need to figure out is how to get my old now-Windows 10 PC over to it. I think I have 2 more days to revert to Win 7, if I want to take that chance.
    First, I have to ask, are you Mama Bear from Commodore days?

    A 300W power supply seems pretty light; I think mine is 450W.

    If the old computer came with an OEM license and you upgraded to Windows 10, it's for the life of that computer and cannot be transferred to another one. However, if it's a Retail license you may be able to do it, but will probably have to call Microsoft to get the job done.

    Probably the cheapest way to do your transfer is with the Easy Transfer Cable. Buy Easy Computer Sync - Bravura Software
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  3. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 100
    Windows 10
       21 Aug 2016 #13

    Wynona said: View Post
    First, I have to ask, are you Mama Bear from Commodore days?
    No, I started computing with MSDOS.

    A 300W power supply seems pretty light; I think mine is 450W.
    I have a UPS and this present tower PC never draws more than about 120 watts.

    If the old computer came with an OEM license and you upgraded to Windows 10, it's for the life of that computer and cannot be transferred to another one. However, if it's a Retail license you may be able to do it, but will probably have to call Microsoft to get the job done.

    Probably the cheapest way to do your transfer is with the Easy Transfer Cable. Buy Easy Computer Sync - Bravura Software
    I actually want to go back to previous versions. ( see thread ) I started with 7 and upgraded to 10 on July 24th but have had some VERY SCARY problems with it, about a week ago. That's why I bought the 8.1 system. So the question is, how to revert to 7, then move it to the 8.1 system. IF that's not too dangerous!
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  4. Joined : May 2015
    Central IL
    Posts : 3,062
    EL Capitan
       22 Aug 2016 #14

    MamaBear said: View Post
    My sister lives in the same house with me, and her PC is about 12 years old, and getting pretty decrepit. BUT we recently "free upgraded" it to Windows 10.

    So I spec'd out a newer one and today, we just bought her a nice refurbished ASUS AMD FX-8310 64-Bit with 8 GB, a 2 TB HDD, AMD Radeon R7 240 2 GB GPU and Windows 8.1. A $900 PC for around $400, plus a LED full HD 24" Asus monitor to match.

    But now the question becomes, how to migrate her stuff f
    rom the old Windows 10 PC to the newer Windows 8.1 PC.

    Is there a quick, easy and reliable way of doing this? Perhaps over a short ethernet cable?


    Depending on what she is doing, that current machine if no issues, will work fine. I have three Intel Core 2 Duo's that run fine with Windows 10 on them. If she is seeing controller problems, I would just get her an off lease with monitor, which you can find them for under $200. You can also get a AMD Quad Core E-4 for under $300 these days as a Laptop.

    Sounds more like you are building for yourself not her.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,665
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Aug 2016 #15

    MamaBear said: View Post
    No, I started computing with MSDOS.
    I started with OS/9 then on to an IBM clone with MSDOS . . .

    MamaBear said: View Post
    <Snip>

    I actually want to go back to previous versions. ( see thread ) I started with 7 and upgraded to 10 on July 24th but have had some VERY SCARY problems with it, about a week ago. That's why I bought the 8.1 system. So the question is, how to revert to 7, then move it to the 8.1 system. IF that's not too dangerous!
    I'm just a bit confused here . . .

    So, you started with a Windows 7 machine and upgraded it to Windows 10. Now you're having problems with the upgrade. I can tell you that every machine I've upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 has had some kind of problems. The only way I've found to sort those out is to do a clean install of Windows 10. Generally, the clean install will straighten things out quite nicely.

    You bought a Windows 8.1 system and you want to change the OS to Windows 7? Or do you want to dual boot with both Windows 7 and Windows 8?

    Getting Windows 7 onto the Windows 8.1 system will depend on the license; whether it's an OEM system (the computer came with Windows 7 installed on it) or if you bought a Retail copy of Windows 7 and put it onto the machine.

    If the old machine is an OEM system (the computer came with Windows 7 installed on it), you cannot put that copy of Windows 7 onto the new computer; even if you succeed in finding the product key, it won't work.

    If you have a Retail license to Windows 7, you should have a DVD and a Product Key. All you have to do in that instance is format the hard drive and install it on the new machine and remove it from the old one. If it doesn't activate, you may have to call Microsoft.
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  6. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 100
    Windows 10
       22 Aug 2016 #16

    bro67 said: View Post
    Depending on what she is doing, that current machine if no issues, will work fine. I have three Intel Core 2 Duo's that run fine with Windows 10 on them. If she is seeing controller problems, I would just get her an off lease with monitor, which you can find them for under $200. You can also get a AMD Quad Core E-4 for under $300 these days as a Laptop.

    Sounds more like you are building for yourself not her.
    No, we are both using old PC's and were due for some better ones. Mine is 6 years old and hers is older than mine - maybe 10 years old?

    So I ordered her that one refurbed at a good price, then picked up the same one on Ebay for myself last night. She got a $900 PC, refurbed, for $400, and I got a $900 PC, new without the box, for $300.
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  7. Joined : Jul 2016
    Posts : 100
    Windows 10
       22 Aug 2016 #17

    Wynona said: View Post
    I started with OS/9 then on to an IBM clone with MSDOS . . .



    I'm just a bit confused here . . .

    So, you started with a Windows 7 machine and upgraded it to Windows 10. Now you're having problems with the upgrade. I can tell you that every machine I've upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 has had some kind of problems. The only way I've found to sort those out is to do a clean install of Windows 10. Generally, the clean install will straighten things out quite nicely.

    You bought a Windows 8.1 system and you want to change the OS to Windows 7? Or do you want to dual boot with both Windows 7 and Windows 8?

    Getting Windows 7 onto the Windows 8.1 system will depend on the license; whether it's an OEM system (the computer came with Windows 7 installed on it) or if you bought a Retail copy of Windows 7 and put it onto the machine.

    If the old machine is an OEM system (the computer came with Windows 7 installed on it), you cannot put that copy of Windows 7 onto the new computer; even if you succeed in finding the product key, it won't work.

    If you have a Retail license to Windows 7, you should have a DVD and a Product Key. All you have to do in that instance is format the hard drive and install it on the new machine and remove it from the old one. If it doesn't activate, you may have to call Microsoft.
    No, things are getting a little mixed up here. My sister has about a 10 year old PC. I used the Windows 10 free upgrade on hers, a few weeks before July 24th, so she cant go back to Win 7 now.

    I have a 6 year old PC and used the Windows 10 upgrade on mine, on July 24th, so I either need to go back ASAP ( today? ) or figure out how to migrate to the 8.1 that I just bought.

    She's been wanting a newer PC anyway, because her video is terrible - it's hard for her to even play videos from the web, it's so slow.
    So a few days ago, I picked her up a refurbed Asus, of the same specs mentioned above in this thread - essentially a $900 PC, factory refurbed for $400. That's on the way now.

    With my PC, after the Windows 10 upgrade, I had the usual problems of drivers not working, no wifi for a day, until I found the right new driver for that, etc. But THEN ( see my other thread at WTF just happened?! - Page 5 - Windows 10 Forums ) it suddenly wouldn't BOOT! Freaked me totally out! I finally managed to get it working again. My home business is on this PC!

    So people were saying, in the other thread, that 8.1 is a stable version. So I just picked up a new Asus with the same specs last night, on Ebay - a $900 PC new without the box, for $300! It will ship today.

    We don't need dual boot or any of that - just a way to move stuff to the new ones. ( even if just by ethernet cable )

    But hers is a simpler machine - program wise. She has some browser stuff and passwords that she wants to transfer, and some of the stuff for our home business, but not that critical.

    Mine, on the other hand, as my whole computing life since 1992, including a registered copy of AutoCAD 2002, which still runs, and a Dazzle Envelope Manager from 2002, which isn't even sold anymore, but with which I can print a single envelope at a time, for the business, and it goes to the USPS site and gets the Zip+4 and prints a bar code on the envelope. I don't want to risk those!

    The good news is, that I use Carbonite, so I can make sure it's backed up first, then freeze that backup, but it's data, not the programs.

    So I'd RATHER NOT get into a situation where I have to reinstall weeks worth of stuff on this PC because I'm getting the 8.1 machine now.

    I wouldn't touch Windows 10 now, with a 10 foot pole! Like so many other versions, I'd wait a few years for them to fix the bugs! I was just duped, like so many other people, into using the free "upgrade" by the months of fricking nags they did on my Win 7 pc!
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  8. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 825
    Win10/64 Pro 1511 (and 2 Win 7/64 Ult & Pro systems)
       22 Aug 2016 #18

    Hi:

    You wrote:
    The good news is, that I use Carbonite, so I can make sure it's backed up first, then freeze that backup, but it's data, not the programs.
    Having offsite, cloud data backup is good (especially if one's house burns down, taking out one's computers AND one's local USB backup drives).

    But I hope you do not plan to try to restore a LOT of data backed-up at Carbonite from Computer 1 to Computer 2.
    Depending on your speed/bandwidth of your ISP, it might take a VERY long, long time to pull down an entire computer's worth of data from Carbonite onto the new system. Your data download may be throttled by your ISP.
    I regard it as a "backup plan of last resort" for that reason.
    There are probably more efficient means to migrate the data from old computer to new computer, e.g. through your own network or through the use of an external USB hard drive, or through some sort of Easy Transfer Cable (if those still work for Win10).

    Also, you will want to contact Carbonite if you plan to transfer the license from the old computer to the new one.
    Carbonite WILL transfer the remaining days on your old computer license to your new computer license.
    I just went through that process when I retired a Win7 box and bought a new Win10 box.
    I did not transfer the backup files (though you can do that). I transferred the old license to the new computer. They were very helpful and it saved me ~3 months of time on my old license.

    It sounds more complicated than it is.

    Bottom line:
    >>Downloading/restoring a lot of data from Carbonite to get your old computer's files onto the new computer will be very time-consuming. There may be more efficient ways to do that.
    >>I suggest contacting Carbonite to get the license and/or backups transferred. In my experience, it's most easily done on the phone.

    MM
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  9. Joined : Mar 2015
    Philadelphia
    Posts : 1,074
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       22 Aug 2016 #19

    MamaBear said: View Post
    We don't even want to taint the new one, or botch it up with Windows 10.
    That computer would be able to run Windows 10 very well. It isn't high end, which makes me think you WAY overpaid for it, though. I would have valued that computer at $400-$500, not $900, and that would be new, not refurbished.

    Either way, you own it now, so Windows 10 wouldn't be anything to fear. It's free, simple to upgrade, and would run very well.

    As for moving the data, a simple flash drive or external drive is your simplest way.
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  10. Joined : May 2015
    Central IL
    Posts : 3,062
    EL Capitan
       22 Aug 2016 #20

    MamaBear said: View Post
    No, we are both using old PC's and were due for some better ones. Mine is 6 years old and hers is older than mine - maybe 10 years old?

    So I ordered her that one refurbed at a good price, then picked up the same one on Ebay for myself last night. She got a $900 PC, refurbed, for $400, and I got a $900 PC, new without the box, for $300.
    You can still get better and cheaper priced systems from Off Leases on Newegg. If the computer is running fine for being 8 to 10 years old, no newer games are being played, a Intel Core 2 Duo works out fine.
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