Windows 10: Start Menu. Possibly a self inflicted problem. It is to small. Solved

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  1. Posts : 8,291
    Windows 10 Professional
       14 Aug 2016 #11

    One other thing:
    Do you have the device set to it's native resolution and at 100% dpi? Because your Taskbar looks curiously crowded.
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  2. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       14 Aug 2016 #12

    Mooly said: View Post
    ...
    but if you keep going toward the right screen edge the start menu suddenly snapped to a larger size. Yea Very odd and not at all intuitive.
    Sounds as though you figured out how to drag the menu larger - did this solve the issue?

    Post another screen if you have a larger pinned Start and the tiles still don't arrange the way you expect.

    edit: It bugs me too when I try to shrink the menu - you have to do incremental resize too much and nothing happens, too little and nothing happens.
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  3. Posts : 5,648
    Windows X (various flavours)
       14 Aug 2016 #13

    Edwin said: View Post
    One other thing:
    Do you have the device set to it's native resolution and at 100% dpi? Because your Taskbar looks curiously crowded.
    Now that Edwin mentioned... I think you don't have place for the second row. Try to disable that switch: "show more tiles", then it should be place for two rows.
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  4. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       14 Aug 2016 #14

    Edwin said: View Post
    One other thing:
    Do you have the device set to it's native resolution and at 100% dpi? Because your Taskbar looks curiously crowded.
    Looks like large icons, Cortana search box, and Task View button take up all the room to me ... but only Mooly can answer these things
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  5. Posts : 781
    W10 pro x86 and Vista x86
    Thread Starter
       15 Aug 2016 #15

    Hi Andre. Yes I did try the trouble-shooter yesterday (thanks) but no luck.

    However there is more to this tale...... the restored back image would not allow the start menu to be resized. Even my discovery of pulling the cursor all the way over to the right does nothing and it all seems tied in to the dpi setting. If I change that back to 100% I can rescale the menu. Set it to 125% and I can not.

    Edwin said: View Post
    One other thing:
    Do you have the device set to it's native resolution and at 100% dpi? Because your Taskbar looks curiously crowded.

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    Now this never happened in the previous versions (pre AU) and I'm using the same video drivers and so on. So at this moment it seems like I'm stuck with the issue although I can use the 'display full start screen' option that uses 100% of the desktop space.
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  6. Posts : 781
    W10 pro x86 and Vista x86
    Thread Starter
       15 Aug 2016 #16

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Sounds as though you figured out how to drag the menu larger - did this solve the issue?

    Post another screen if you have a larger pinned Start and the tiles still don't arrange the way you expect.

    edit: It bugs me too when I try to shrink the menu - you have to do incremental resize too much and nothing happens, too little and nothing happens.
    Looks like large icons, Cortana search box, and Task View button take up all the room to me ... but only Mooly can answer these things
    This is the look I was aiming for and this is on a Dell 17" laptop. This gives an idea of the scale of things and how large and small icons look. In the previous Ten versions I could get pretty close to this on the old Acer.

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  7. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       15 Aug 2016 #17

    Ok, I'm not sure which screen to look at

    There might be a clue in the screen shots in post# 1

    One, like the image in post# 16, shows 1600x900 - the other shows 1440x900. The 160 resolution difference can make exact screen matching difficult.

    Post# 16 looks to be the same as the first pic in Post# 1 ... except the Start is different (1511 in post# 1 and 1607 in post# 16)

    Post# 15 has an image that I believe is the layout you're trying to adjust.
    If I'm correct, please let me know, you won't have to post another shot until you make a change.


    The easiest thing to do is to drag the tiles you want in a group to a new group in an empty area of the pinned Start (the empty group bar is highlighted). Click on the empty group name and name it something meaningful
    Then drag other tiles into that group

    Do that for all tiles - put them in the group you choose and name the group so it's easy to identify. Don't worry about the arrangement yet - just get the tiles grouped.

    When you have your tiles grouped the way it makes sense to you, then drag the group bar to the location you want it on the pinned Start. It might be a little tricky because it auto-arranges. Once you get the hang of it, you can bounce the groups and tiles in or between groups around more easily.

    If there is enough room on the pinned Start, you can affect the space between the group columns, if there is not enough space, the tiles wrap.
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  8. Posts : 781
    W10 pro x86 and Vista x86
    Thread Starter
       16 Aug 2016 #18

    Sorry, yes I see how that can be confusing.

    Post #16 was taken from my Dell 17" laptop and is a current image of how its set up with the Anniversary Update. That is the look I'm after on the old Acer, and pre Anniversary Update I could in fact get close to this (two customisable name fields in the horizontal plane).

    Post #1 shows the Dell start menu from just before I clean installed AU. I just took a screen shot of it for reference so that I could rebuild both PC's the same way. Second shot in post #1 is how the Acer ends up when used with the same screen settings (dpi etc) as I've always used.
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  9. Posts : 5,648
    Windows X (various flavours)
       16 Aug 2016 #19

    AndreTen said: View Post
    Now that Edwin mentioned... I think you don't have place for the second row. Try to disable that switch: "show more tiles", then it should be place for two rows.
    Mooly said: View Post
    Sorry, yes I see how that can be confusing.

    Post #16 was taken from my Dell 17" laptop and is a current image of how its set up with the Anniversary Update. That is the look I'm after on the old Acer, and pre Anniversary Update I could in fact get close to this (two customisable name fields in the horizontal plane).

    Post #1 shows the Dell start menu from just before I clean installed AU. I just took a screen shot of it for reference so that I could rebuild both PC's the same way. Second shot in post #1 is how the Acer ends up when used with the same screen settings (dpi etc) as I've always used.
    Did you tried to disable "show more tiles"? In the first picture your tiles settings (row) is narrower.
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  10. Posts : 781
    W10 pro x86 and Vista x86
    Thread Starter
       16 Aug 2016 #20

    Yes I did, but it makes no difference to the actual start screen. The only thing that works is lowering the dpi setting, but that makes everything to small.
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