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  1. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 May 2015 #61

    Qushery said: View Post
    why not ? do you get malware when installing apps from the mac store or the Android Play store

    what is funny is that this is already implemented on Mac OS and Android , and it's not a problem for power users to go to the setting and enable installing apps from anywhere.
    Winuser said: View Post
    No it didn't! If you want Windows to be like another OS than stop using Windows and start using the other OS. I do not want and do not need MS holding my hand when I'm on my computer.
    I agree with @Winuser If I want a Mac OS experience then I'll use a Mac. I want to use Windows as it was meant to be and not to meet the needs of some/one of the users. Like I said,, if the users you're helping out are having issues with malware then it's up to you to educate them on how to avoid the problem and not up to the rest of us to help prevent that.
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  2. Joined : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,288
    Win 10 Pro x64
       07 May 2015 #62

    Qushery said: View Post
    in my extended family I'm the one they talk to when they have a problem on their PCs , most of the problems caused by trying to install a program and downloading something else (sometimes malicious) or downloading the right program but getting malware/adware installed with it (that slow-down the device or fill the browser with adds and pop-ups) .
    Wipe out Windows from their PC and give them Linux. I am sure there's no way they can install anything on it.
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  3. Joined : Jul 2014
    UK
    Posts : 16,453
    Windows 10
       07 May 2015 #63

    Qushery said: View Post
    why not ? do you get malware when installing apps from the mac store or the Android Play store

    what is funny is that this is already implemented on Mac OS and Android , and it's not a problem for power users to go to the setting and enable installing apps from anywhere.
    On a tablet fine, Android/iOS can do this, Windows can also do this as the default for tablets, as long as I can turn it off

    Desktop is completely different, these apps that install the added software (makes them money), what are they going to do if it goes in the store, start charging for it?

    Mac OS adding the store was one of my big reasons for leaving OS, I want to install/run a program as the developer intended, not have it restricted by what the store owner wants
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  4. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 55
    Qushery
       07 May 2015 #64

    paulsalter said: View Post
    On a tablet fine, Android/iOS can do this, Windows can also do this as the default for tablets, as long as I can turn it off

    Desktop is completely different, these apps that install the added software (makes them money), what are they going to do if it goes in the store, start charging for it?

    Mac OS adding the store was one of my big reasons for leaving OS, I want to install/run a program as the developer intended, not have it restricted by what the store owner wants
    on mac OS you still can go to the setting and enable the ability to install apps from anywhere.

    the monetization issue can be solved with ads and charging for an ad free version (the adware way was not repectful of the user , since most of them don't read and just click next)
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  5. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 55
    Qushery
       07 May 2015 #65

    Winuser said: View Post
    No it didn't! If you want Windows to be like another OS than stop using Windows and start using the other OS. I do not want and do not need MS holding my hand when I'm on my computer.
    again the point just over your head
    also it's very childish replay

    we both know what is windows value add , and is that value add is not compromise by making the OS safer.
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  6. Joined : Jul 2014
    UK
    Posts : 16,453
    Windows 10
       07 May 2015 #66

    Qushery said: View Post
    on mac OS you still can go to the setting and enable the ability to install apps from anywhere.

    the monetization issue can be solved with ads and charging for an ad free version (the adware way was not repectful of the user , since most of them don't read and just click next)
    True, if the developer provides both options, unfortunately that is not always the case, so for some apps that I had I could only update from the store, meant the feature set was crippled because they had to abide by Apple store policies

    I would rather people got shown how to install things and read what they are doing instead of apps turning into paid or ad supported
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  7. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 May 2015 #67

    Qushery said: View Post
    on mac OS you still can go to the setting and enable the ability to install apps from anywhere.

    the monetization issue can be solved with ads and charging for an ad free version (the adware way was not repectful of the user , since most of them don't read and just click next)
    No.. totally no. Tools like Python are open source and thus FREE. And charges for the use of the product would violate the basic agreement that exist in the usage of Python and countless other Open Source projects/products...
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  8. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 May 2015 #68

    paulsalter said: View Post
    True, if the developer provides both options, unfortunately that is not always the case, so for some apps that I had I could only update from the store, meant the feature set was crippled because they had to abide by Apple store policies

    I would rather people got shown how to install things and read what they are doing instead of apps turning into paid or ad supported
    The other issue is what happens to any open source projects that have to move to the store.. would they remain free?? They would have to ..
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  9. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 55
    Qushery
       07 May 2015 #69

    Winuser said: View Post
    You do know that installing programs and apps is not the only way to infect a computer?
    yes , I already mentioned that but I guess it also went over your head.

    you do know that installing apps is a very popular way of getting adware , malware , viruses and even ransomware

    remember the whole ransomware thing last year ? yeah that would not be possible if windows was like mac OS and was locked to the store by default.

    it's amazing how you stick your head in the sand and pretend that this stuff is not windows biggest problem .
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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 May 2015 #70

    Qushery said: View Post
    again the point just over your head
    also it's very childish replay

    we both know what is windows value add , and is that value add is not compromise by making the OS safer.
    Again.. no. If you need to educate the users you support more and don't force anyone else to adjust to meet the needs you have.
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