Windows 10: Conspiracy????

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  1. Posts : 3,176
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       05 May 2015 #21

    dencal said: View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me, every so often some self persecuted freaks imagine the most unbelievable scenarios
    Microsoft products are installed on billions of computers, and out of all these computers, believe they are specifically picking on them.
    and some of those billions also think that its Microsoft calling them to tell them they have a virus on there computer and they need to let Microsoft in to fix it ,,,, only ones that know its not Microsoft are people who are computer savvy,and those who don't own a computer .

    I to really like using a Microsoft acct to sign Into my computer's, I like having the same screen background and favorites and setting in IE ,and anything else that goes with it,,,
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  2.    05 May 2015 #22

    I don't understand the rant ... I installed Win10 TP using a local account. While I do have an MS account, I did not install using it.

    If they are changing this for the RTM to require an MS account to install Win10, it should be a simple process after that to convert to a local account.

    So again, I don't understand the rant ...
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  3.    05 May 2015 #23

    caperjack said: View Post
    and some of those billions also think that its Microsoft calling them to tell them they have a virus on there computer and they need to let Microsoft in to fix it ,,,, only ones that know its not Microsoft are people who are computer savvy,and those who don't own a computer .

    I to really like using a Microsoft acct to sign Into my computer's, I like having the same screen background and favorites and setting in IE ,and anything else that goes with it,,,
    . . .me to. . .
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  4. Posts : 1,967
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       06 May 2015 #24

    caperjack said: View Post
    and some of those billions also think that its Microsoft calling them to tell them they have a virus on there computer and they need to let Microsoft in to fix it ,,,, only ones that know its not Microsoft are people who are computer savvy,and those who don't own a computer.
    Blame Microsoft for scams performed by crooks out to make money using their software ?
    Why not accuse motor manufacturers whose cars are being used by bank robbers to make their getaway ?
    Why not blame banks when people give their credit card details to dodgy e-mail links or phone calls ?

    Scams like your above quote and others like bank e-mails and phone calls purporting to be from genuine sources are enacted by people other than M$ and no blame can be laid on computer software supplied by Microsoft.

    As for certain people not being computer savvy, they must either be nave, stupid or suffering with impaired faculties to be taken in by these scams.
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  5. Posts : 165
    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit
       06 May 2015 #25

    Although I do have an MS account, I do not sign in to the computer with it.

    I sign-in when required, to use a particular app (Hotmail, for example) and then sign out again. My (Windows) phone has an MS account, but it is not the same as my 'regular' MS account as I don't want the phone and the PC linked and do not use the cloud (One-Drive, or whatever they're calling it now) to store files (or anything else). I can still log into my 'real' Hotmail account to read emails etc on the phone.

    While I don't buy most of the tinfoil-hat theories doing the rounds, and while I also realise that much of our private info is already out there, I do like to have some control over what they can get and when they can get it, and I also don't believe in making their task any easier by blithely posting every detail of my personal life online, as some seem wont to do on Farce-book etc. I also have a separate email address, complete with a pseudonym and dodgy personal details, specifically for those sites where you need to register to gain access or which you suspect may themselves be dodgy (and it keeps most of the spam in one place too). You can't really complain that someone has your private personal details if you posted them up there in the first place, and I'd rather be safe than sorry.

    This is my personal choice, and I prefer to operate that way. If others wish to run through their MS accounts, that's fine too, not that it's any business of mine. It's not a big deal, and neither way is 'right' or 'wrong'.


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  6. Posts : 1,967
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       06 May 2015 #26

    Wenda.
    Superbly put together article, including choices for those paranoid enough to believe the world is out to get them, and how to deal with it.
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  7. Posts : 3,176
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       06 May 2015 #27

    Blame Microsoft for scams performed by crooks out to make money using their software ?
    Why not accuse motor manufacturers whose cars are being used by bank robbers to make their getaway ?
    Why not blame banks when people give their credit card details to dodgy e-mail links or phone calls ?

    Scams like your above quote and others like bank e-mails and phone calls purporting to be from genuine sources are enacted by people other than M$ and no blame can be laid on computer software supplied by Microsoft.

    As for certain people not being computer savvy, they must either be nave, stupid or suffering with impaired faculties to be taken in by these scams.
    not sure what category to put the people in ,but the fact the scammers are making millions of dollars a year is proof that someone knows squat about the computer they own ,and some of these people are customers of mine ,some are educated and some aren't .

    just to be clear it not me blaming Microsoft ,its the owners of the computer .
    and how nave are people ,,, Well one guy said he was really concerned about all the call he was getting ,Microsoft telling him his computer had a virus ,,, and he didn't even own a computer! ,he could not understand why Microsoft did know he didn't own one !! was he stupid ,I don't know you be the judge
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  8. Posts : 8,183
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       08 May 2015 #28

    I'm not sure where to begin other than the "Tin Foil Hat Society" Just about everything in the first post is simply not true.

    They sample keystrokes and voice commands (Like a website to your bank, the login, and password.) So 10 has built in keylogger and video and audio surveillance.
    Simply garbage and not even close to the truth. Whoever wrote that must have laid awake all night to dream that junk up.

    In plain english they reserve the right to have your Full Name, Location, Phone Number, Picture of you, Sample of your voiceprint, websites you visit like your bank, your Skype calls, your naughty sites, and "samples" of your keystrokes aka your login and password.
    That is the biggest bunch of crap I have ever heard. No where are you required to give them a voice sample, picture of yourself or your Bank Account login information. You do not have to use a Microsoft account, if you so choose. They do not turn on your video camera and spy on you. Anyone who believes all of that is probably nave enough to believe that anything you read on the Internet is true, and all of the scammers who call "from Microsoft "to fix your computer", really are from Microsoft.

    I'm just curious. If you really believe all of that, why do you have WTP installed? If I believed any of that, I wouldn't have it installed on any computer I own.
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  9.    09 May 2015 #29

    essenbe said: View Post
    I'm not sure where to begin other than the "Tin Foil Hat Society" Just about everything in the first post is simply not true.



    Simply garbage and not even close to the truth. Whoever wrote that must have laid awake all night to dream that junk up.



    That is the biggest bunch of crap I have ever heard. No where are you required to give them a voice sample, picture of yourself or your Bank Account login information. You do not have to use a Microsoft account, if you so choose. They do not turn on your video camera and spy on you. Anyone who believes all of that is probably nave enough to believe that anything you read on the Internet is true, and all of the scammers who call "from Microsoft "to fix your computer", really are from Microsoft.

    I'm just curious. If you really believe all of that, why do you have WTP installed? If I believed any of that, I wouldn't have it installed on any computer I own.
    . . .Could not have said it better. . .
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  10.    09 May 2015 #30

    essenbe said: View Post
    I'm not sure where to begin other than the "Tin Foil Hat Society" Just about everything in the first post is simply not true.



    Simply garbage and not even close to the truth. Whoever wrote that must have laid awake all night to dream that junk up.



    That is the biggest bunch of crap I have ever heard. No where are you required to give them a voice sample, picture of yourself or your Bank Account login information. You do not have to use a Microsoft account, if you so choose. They do not turn on your video camera and spy on you. Anyone who believes all of that is probably nave enough to believe that anything you read on the Internet is true, and all of the scammers who call "from Microsoft "to fix your computer", really are from Microsoft.

    I'm just curious. If you really believe all of that, why do you have WTP installed? If I believed any of that, I wouldn't have it installed on any computer I own.
    Could not have been said better.
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