Windows 10: Java's Position in Windows 10 Start Menu?

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  1. Posts : 3,735
    Mac OS Sierra
       05 Jul 2016 #11

    It would be easier to just use either Classic Shell or Start10, instead of trying to play fix Microsoft's shortcomings.
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  2. Posts : 7
    Windows 10 Pro. x64
    Thread Starter
       05 Jul 2016 #12

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Navigate to %programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
    Create a new folder named Java

    Open file location of the exisiing Java menu item (right click)
    Find the target of the shortcut (right click)
    Make a new shortcut of the exe - on your desktop - name is Java
    Copy the new shortcut, Java, on your desktop to the new folder you made above

    You should end up with
    %programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Java\Java.lnk

    Restart File explorer just in case
    I don't want the Java icon inside a folder. I just want it out in the Start Menu like all of my other application shortcuts. I've removed all folders from that "All Apps" part of the Start Menu. I took just the Application shortcut I wanted from the folders that were in there and moved them out into "All Apps" then deleted the folder they were originally in.
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  3. Posts : 3,735
    Mac OS Sierra
       06 Jul 2016 #13

    You cannot with the standard menu. You need to use one of the two programs that I posted.

    You really do not even need Java on the menu. If you do any type of Java coding, you would be using the proper program for that.
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  4. Posts : 7
    Windows 10 Pro. x64
    Thread Starter
       07 Jul 2016 #14

    I've done that with every other program that places a folder with a shortcut to it, in the Start Menu:
    Disk Wipe

    and Java (except that Java sorts itself under the "C" section).
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  5. Posts : 3,735
    Mac OS Sierra
       07 Jul 2016 #15

    Why it is doing that, it may be in the actual location info or description. Have you tried uninstalling Java and then clean out all of the junk with CCLeaner after a reboot, then reboot again and try downloading the "offline" version and install?
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  6. Posts : 7
    Windows 10 Pro. x64
    Thread Starter
       07 Jul 2016 #16

    Posted about it here:
    Javas Position in Windows 10 Start Menu? - Microsoft (Windows) Support - Neowin Forums

    People are experiencing this as well.
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  7. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       07 Jul 2016 #17

    Right click on the java item on Start
    Select Open file location
    post screen shot

    Right click on the shortcut (from open file location)
    Select properties
    post screen shot

    press Open file location button
    Right click the exe
    create new shortcut - place on desktop

    back to Start
    Right click on the java item on Start
    Select Open file location
    navigate up one level
    move the folder that has java in it to your Downloads folder

    copy the new Desktop\Java.lnk to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    Pin any item to start - then unpin from start - that wakes up Windows Start to check for new items.

    If that does not work, then Windows is getting the name from the exe and there's nothing you can do about it.
    I've reorganized my Start menu hundreds of times - the trick is to get Start to realize there is a new items based on Start's last update(access) flag. This is specific to Start, it is not file accessed, modified, created time.

    If you also have Java in your personal Start menu, then you have to either do the same thing as the All Users apps or just remove it from your personal Start menu.
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  8. Posts : 854
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       07 Jul 2016 #18

    Slartybart said: View Post
    If that does not work, then Windows is getting the name from the exe and there's nothing you can do about it.
    Yes. Problem is that one actually begins with "C" in "Configure Java" either name or details/description, somewhere...
    In the end, something in the installer-created folder or shortcut might have a hidden setting telling the start menu what to do with the shown icon. I've seen some pretty weird stuff with Firefox icons.

    I was able to check a manually created javacpl.exe "java" shortcut and it was placed rightly under "J" from %localappdata% start menu folder.
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  9. Posts : 3,735
    Mac OS Sierra
       07 Jul 2016 #19

    Really I would not even worry about it. If Java works, leave it alone. The next fix may or may not correct the behavior. Oracle could also be aware of the issue and working on a fix.
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