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  1.    16 Apr 2015 #21
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    In short, there are 2 different reasons for a system slowing down:
    - hardware
    - software

    So, start with the hardware stuff first (IMO) in order to rule it out. I'd start with these free diagnostics: Hardware Diagnostics
    CHKDDK checks the file system on the hard drive - so it's possible to pass CHKDSK even with a problem hard drive (not often, but it's still possible). Running the Long/Extended hard drive diagnostics will help to sort this out.

    As for the software problems, try looking at Resource Monitor and Task Manager (along with Event Viewer and MSINFO32) in order to see if there is a particular program/set of programs messing things up.

    Beyond that are the different Windows tools for fixing Windows problems (SFC.EXE, DISM, System Restore, Refresh, Reset, or just doing a complete wipe of the hard drive before installing Windows).
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  2.    16 Apr 2015 #22
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    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    If you upgrade, I would look for a SSHD. Those are faster than HDDs but not as fast as SSDs.

    500gb sshd - Newegg.com
    there seems to be good deals for disks (even regular HDs) way better than mine. I will look at!

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Windows slows down soon as you add certain software (e.g. Adobe, MS Office) even if you disable all of the Startup items.
    Windows Updates are probably even worse.
    After installing the Windows Updates this time last year, my boot time nearly doubled.

    Intel Celeron G530 CPUs aren't very powerful either.
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...30+%40+2.40GHz
    Yeah, but as the HD light is steadily on during boots, I suppose it's the bootleneck there.
    In my case seems to be on the other way, it has improved after updates

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    The stupid editor wouldn't let me add anything to my last post without combining it with the link.

    I'd also check that all of the power and data cables for all of the components (e.g. HDDs, Optical drives, etc.) are properly connected.

    If possible try new cables, as the standard SATA cables wear out and slip off of the drive connectors.
    I had to replace my HDD SATA cables with ones that had clips to stop that occurring.
    My cable has a metal hook that locks it in place, like this:

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  3.    16 Apr 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by usasma View Post
    In short, there are 2 different reasons for a system slowing down:
    - hardware
    - software

    So, start with the hardware stuff first (IMO) in order to rule it out. I'd start with these free diagnostics: Hardware Diagnostics
    CHKDDK checks the file system on the hard drive - so it's possible to pass CHKDSK even with a problem hard drive (not often, but it's still possible). Running the Long/Extended hard drive diagnostics will help to sort this out.

    As for the software problems, try looking at Resource Monitor and Task Manager (along with Event Viewer and MSINFO32) in order to see if there is a particular program/set of programs messing things up.

    Beyond that are the different Windows tools for fixing Windows problems (SFC.EXE, DISM, System Restore, Refresh, Reset, or just doing a complete wipe of the hard drive before installing Windows).
    Thank you.
    As for hardware:

    I used memtest overnight some time ago to test my new RAM module and came clear.
    Same as Prime95 and IntelBurntest.
    I run furmark in burn mode and no artifacts, hangs, or bsods.
    I wll try CHKDSK and come back with the results.

    As for software.
    No virus/malware I didn't installed anything yet except the drivers (from Gigabyte) and updates (from Windows update), browsers (Chrome/Opera/Firefox, from their websites)

    Nothing unusual in task manager,resource monitor nor event viewer. Windows is clean installed

    I will run SFC and DISM now and comment out
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  4.    16 Apr 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by derek10 View Post
    My cable has a metal hook that locks it in place, like this:

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    That type shouldn't work loose.

    Have you checked the HDD SMART data (using something like Speccy)?

    How old is the HDD?
    How old is the motherboard?

    It's possible the drive is going bad.
    You might need to run Check Disk with the "Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" option selected.

    It's also posssible that the HDD and/or motherboard controller has developed a fault.
    One of the SATA sockets on my motherboard behaves erratically (HDDs perform poorly when they are connected to it).

    You could also try uninstalling your devices and drivers and then reinstalling them, in case there was a problem when they were last installed.
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  5.    16 Apr 2015 #25
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    Thank you
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    That type shouldn't work loose.

    Have you checked the HDD SMART data (using something like Speccy)?

    How old is the HDD?
    How old is the motherboard?

    It's possible the drive is going bad.
    You might need to run Check Disk with the "Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" option selected.

    It's also posssible that the HDD and/or motherboard controller has developed a fault.
    One of the SATA sockets on my motherboard behaves erratically (HDDs perform poorly when they are connected to it).

    You could also try uninstalling your devices and drivers and then reinstalling them, in case there was a problem when they were last installed.

    The HD is about 5 years old.
    The MB is 3 years old

    Check disk came clean.
    SMART data is OK
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    I will try another SATA port (after the chkdsk) and post!
    I reinstalled chipset driver and SATA driver but no improved
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  6.    16 Apr 2015 #26
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    Not sure if this will work for Windows 10, but you can give it a shot...

    https://helgeklein.com/blog/2013/07/...rder-analyzer/
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  7.    16 Apr 2015 #27
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    Built-in Driver


    Quote Originally Posted by derek10 View Post
    I will try another SATA port (after the chkdsk) and post!
    I reinstalled chipset driver and SATA driver but no improved
    Your SMART data looks good.

    Have you tried using the built-in W7 SATA driver (instead of the motherboard one)?

    When I installed a 3TB HDD (a few months ago) I had a number of wacky issues, including:
    • Long boot times
    • Long shut down times

    It turned out that the motherboard SATA driver didn't support 3TB HDDs.
    When I uninstalled it and used the built-in W7 SATA driver, my problems went away.
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  8.    18 Apr 2015 #28
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    Done all tests
    Memory is OK.
    CPU is OK.
    Windows files are OK.
    Hard disk seems to be OK (not defective)
    Motherboard SATA ports are OK.
    Maybe I should assume my hard disk is slow and life with that Click image for larger version. 

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    Hope I can buy a new faster (and bigger) one.

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Your SMART data looks good.

    Have you tried using the built-in W7 SATA driver (instead of the motherboard one)?

    When I installed a 3TB HDD (a few months ago) I had a number of wacky issues, including:
    • Long boot times
    • Long shut down times

    It turned out that the motherboard SATA driver didn't support 3TB HDDs.
    When I uninstalled it and used the built-in W7 SATA driver, my problems went away.
    Using the stock driver makes boot time worse (longer time in the Windows 7 logo) lol

    Thank you!
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  9.    18 Apr 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Not sure if this will work for Windows 10, but you can give it a shot...

    https://helgeklein.com/blog/2013/07/...rder-analyzer/
    None of the commands in that page work here
    'xbootmgr' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    'wpr' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    I assume it's for Windows 8? (I use Windows 7 now)


    Edit: woops I had to install Windows performance tool kit, now they work

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  10.    18 Apr 2015 #30
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    Weird


    It is strange.

    I was using a 320 GB Seagate IDE HDD up until 2011:
    • My W7 boot time was ~45s
    • My XP boot time was ~55s
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