Windows 10: What do you guys think of installable desktops for windows 10?

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  1. Posts : 1,546
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       08 Apr 2015 #21

    @Kari


    Took me sometime. Here is what happened when I tried to install imgburn in windows 7 using Chocolatey package manager. I wanted to make sure I had a decent image backup in case I had issues. This is what I was talking about with Chocolatey. Unlike repositories for Linux, chocolatey is not watched by several developers. So, with Chocolatey you could get some unwanted software installed. So, if you are going to use Chocolatey package manager, I would recommend using avg. One side note, you may need to reboot after avg cleans a unwanted program before using chocolatey again.



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    Windows 10 Pro
       08 Apr 2015 #22

    That's quite difficult to avoid if as shown in your screenshot the installer itself, the excutable of the app installer you are installing contains XXXware (replace XXX with mal, spy, ad, whatever).

    OK, I admit that should never happen but (there's always a but) that's the second time only I have heard about something like that in all the time I have been interested and involved in this. First was Adobe who tried to add Google Toolbar to Shockwave Player executable, they took it away quite soon (as far as I know I was the first one to detect that, see the tweet below).

    The culprit is Imgburn, not Chocolatey and I am quite convinced that will be changed.

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  3.    09 Apr 2015 #23

    groze said: View Post
    Took me sometime. Here is what happened when I tried to install imgburn in windows 7 using Chocolatey package manager. I wanted to make sure I had a decent image backup in case I had issues. This is what I was talking about with Chocolatey. Unlike repositories for Linux, chocolatey is not watched by several developers. So, with Chocolatey you could get some unwanted software installed. So, if you are going to use Chocolatey package manager, I would recommend using avg. One side note, you may need to reboot after avg cleans a unwanted program before using chocolatey again.
    OpenCandy is an adware program that's included with imgburn's install application directly from the author. This isn't something that was added by a third party. You would get the same popup if you installed Imgburn from any other source, so I fail to understand what this has to do with chocolatey.

    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?/...od-reputation/
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    Dual boot - Win 10 Pro & Win 10 Insider (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       09 Apr 2015 #24

    I'm not real clear on what the topic is here... Package managers? Linux? Something else? If it's package managers, I occasionally use Ninite. Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once

    It's fast, convenient, and BS proof! It's just a stub downloaded with your choices. Fire it up and walk away!

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    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Apr 2015 #25

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    I'm not real clear on what the topic is here... Package managers? Linux? Something else?
    It's about this: PowerShell OneGet - Install Apps from Command Line - Windows 10 Forums

    And here for the older Windows versions: Chocolatey - Install Apps from Command Line
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  6. Posts : 4,333
    Win 10 Pro x64
       09 Apr 2015 #26

    Doing things using a command line is kind of backwards for Windows OS (on user level) but I personally don't have problems with it. I've been using Linux for a while and I am quite familiar with the concept.
    Not a bad idea. It brings out the geeks in us.
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  7. Posts : 11,204
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Apr 2015 #27

    Command line can sometimes speed up things. My image customization scenario, the way I do it with each new version of Windows, each general image I prepare for my own installs, is much easier with tools like OneGet in 10 and Chocolatey in 7 and 8.

    To put it very short, here's what I do, this is exactly how I did with this latest build of 10:
    • Install Windows
    • Reboot to Audit Mode
    • Open PowerShell, use OneGet to install all my basic software I want to be included in the image with one command (Adobe CC, VLC, PDF Reader, 7Xip, Opera, Chrome, Maxthon, Screenpresso to name a few) without any whatsoever user interaction
    • While PS OneGet works and installs my stuff in the background, customize the default user profile and install Office 2013
    • Sysprep with premade answer file, generalizing the image and shutting down
    • Capture the image for later installs (deployments) to my other machines
    • Boot to OOBE to finalize the Windows setup
    • Done!

    I have now a fresh, cleanly installed Windows including all my software, and an image which installs the same complete package to any other machine in 20 minutes.
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  8. Posts : 4,333
    Win 10 Pro x64
       09 Apr 2015 #28

    Kari said: View Post
    Command line can sometimes speed up things. My image customization scenario, the way I do it with each new version of Windows, each general image I prepare for my own installs, is much easier with tools like OneGet in 10 and Chocolatey in 7 and 8.

    To put it very short, here's what I do, this is exactly how I did with this latest build of 10:
    • Install Windows
    • Reboot to Audit Mode
    • Open PowerShell, use OneGet to install all my basic software I want to be included in the image with one command (Adobe CC, VLC, PDF Reader, 7Xip, Opera, Chrome, Maxthon, Screenpresso to name a few) without any whatsoever user interaction
    • While PS OneGet works and installs my stuff in the background, customize the default user profile and install Office 2013
    • Sysprep with premade answer file, generalizing the image and shutting down
    • Capture the image for later installs (deployments) to my other machines
    • Boot to OOBE to finalize the Windows setup
    • Done!

    I have now a fresh, cleanly installed Windows including all my software, and an image which installs the same complete package to any other machine in 20 minutes.
    I need to do that. I got a set of personal "standard" programs that I need to compile together.
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  9. Posts : 11,204
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Apr 2015 #29

    I recommend it. I am not saying my method is the correct way, I'm just saying it works for me. I only "install" a new version or build once, customize the setup, sysprep and capture the image and I'm done. All subsequent installs of the same version will be rather deployments than installs, using this customized and captured image, be it on a real or virtual machine.

    I have a rather big network at home (see the tweet below, big for a home network, small in any other sense!) and I would not like to go through the same procedure with each machine. For me the only reasonable way to do it is to use one machine for the "hard work", then be lazy and deploy .

    BTW, also if you have only one machine this way all subsequent reinstalls are a piece of cake. The funny thing is, deploying the image already containing all my software is faster than a simple clean install of Windows.

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  10. Posts : 4,333
    Win 10 Pro x64
       09 Apr 2015 #30

    Kari said: View Post
    I recommend it. I am not saying my method is the correct way, I'm just saying it works for me. I only "install" a new version or build once, customize the setup, sysprep and capture the image and I'm done. All subsequent installs of the same version will be rather deployments than installs, using this customized and captured image, be it on a real or virtual machine.

    I have a rather big network at home (see the tweet below, big for a home network, small in any other sense!) and I would not like to go through the same procedure with each machine. For me the only reasonable way to do it is to use one machine for the "hard work", then be lazy and deploy .

    BTW, also if you have only one machine this way all subsequent reinstalls are a piece of cake. The funny thing is, deploying the image already containing all my software is faster than a simple clean install of Windows.

    I only have 3 machines on my network but I only mess up a lot with one.

    So the first step is to "compile" my programs. Where do I begin (just a link is enough)?
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