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  1.    02 Apr 2015 #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    You are welcome to your opinion of course. I paid off my credit card bill using Spartan today by signing on to my local bank and transferring the required balance to Bank of America. Worked fine for me. Better than tenforums in fact (it didn't crash once) but it is a simpler site.

    I'm not sure what you think the problem would be. MS accidentally forwarding my bank account numbers to someone or something? SSL not working? Lots of people here say "I wouldn't use a preview for banking" but why not? In what possible technical sense is an RTM safer?
    ASa are you but I also do not use daily builds of Firefox for anything important. It is not the info that MS gets , it the info that can be leaked. This is an unproven pre beta build and should be treated accordingly.
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  2.    02 Apr 2015 #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    It is only my opinion but I believe that no Preview Release OS should be used as your every day OS to do banking and such on.
    And that's fine, Gary. As long as you don't try to tell me I'm doing something wrong by using mine as an everyday OS.

    Sometimes it takes using a beta as an everyday app/OS in order to find hidden bugs.

    BTW, I dual boot Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 so that I don't mess up my "real" everyday OS. Then I use Windows 10 as if it were the only computer I own.
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  3.    02 Apr 2015 #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I would not use any Windows for banking. Only Linux with a good firewall.
    Please tell me why?

    I am behind two firewalls, the Windows firewall and one on my router. All my banking / credit card / insurance sites use https. For all those services I have something we call Mobile TAN here. If let's say someone else had my login credentials, the only thing they could do was to see how little I have on my account. Any transaction, order, anything else than simply looking at the page has to be first confirmed by a Mobile TAN, a one time code sent to my registered mobile number. Registering another phone, the new number must be confirmed with a TAN sent to my existing phone.

    I have had my phone stolen once and it took me four or five days to get access to my account again because it simply is not enough to call them or visit bank and tell that OK, change my number. I had to go personally, identify myself beyond doubt, then a one time code was sent to me in a registered letter which here means I only got notification of its arrival in my letterbox and with that I had to go to the post office where again I had to identify myself to get the letter, then logging in with that one time code I had to answer questions from my mother's maiden name and father's birthplace to recent withdrawals, regular payments and so on. Only then the new number was registered, followed by an email from the bank to two different emails I have given them asking me to verify it really is my new number.

    I am not complaining, for reasons not belonging here I have chosen this rigorous renewal security process by myself. You can have complete security or an easy to access system, not both.

    It is practically impossible for anyone else than me to use my accounts. If that happens to you, me or anyone else, I bet the reason is something else, not that we use Windows.

    Kari
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  4.    02 Apr 2015 #174
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    I use W10 as my main OS cuz I just fool around on my PC.
    I take care of my banking, shopping and business affairs the old fashioned way.
    Work related stuff is all done on my tablet.
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  5.    02 Apr 2015 #175
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    It seems that I am not alone in my opinion on this: Why The Windows 10 Technical Preview Should Not Be Your Main OS

    The Windows 10 Technical Preview was released earlier this month. Following positive reviews, a handful of users upgraded their main Windows 7 or 8 operating system to Windows 10. When reports emerged about Windows 10 Technical Preview recording their every keystroke, naive users were shocked. If you understand what a Technical Preview is, this hardly comes as a surprise.

    Based on the Windows 10 Technical Preview, let us explain how you should use early versions of any software and why making it your main solution is a bad idea.
    More at the link.
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  6.    02 Apr 2015 #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    And that's fine, Gary. As long as you don't try to tell me I'm doing something wrong by using mine as an everyday OS.

    Sometimes it takes using a beta as an everyday app/OS in order to find hidden bugs.

    BTW, I dual boot Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 so that I don't mess up my "real" everyday OS. Then I use Windows 10 as if it were the only computer I own.
    I do not believe I even mentioned you. This is my opinion and other you are free to use it for whatever you want to.
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  7.    02 Apr 2015 #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    It seems that I am not alone in my opinion on this: Why The Windows 10 Technical Preview Should Not Be Your Main OS



    More at the link.
    Really? You think MS has a special division working deep in the cellars in Seattle, gathering the account numbers and credentials from the data Windows 10 delivers when it calls home, then selling it to North Korean hackers?

    OK, why not. I guess you walk on the streets watching all the time behind you to spot those following you .
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  8.    02 Apr 2015 #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Really? You think MS has a special division working deep in the cellars in Seattle, gathering the account numbers and credentials from the data Windows 10 delivers when it calls home, then selling it to North Korean hackers?

    OK, why not. I guess you walk on the streets watching all the time behind you to spot those following you .

    No I never said that. It is not a thoroughly tested OS. It is not MS that you have to worry about. If the NSA and Pentagon can be hacked then your copy of Windows 10 can as well. Windows 7 can as well but not as easily, at least I can use a An Anti Virus Prgram that is secure and not built into Windows. When I used AIS , I could not even install an app. This was because I did not have Windows Firewal turned on. The one I paid for (two year subscription) worked just fine plus my router.
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  9.    02 Apr 2015 #179
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    As the world is today, here are some really easy to remember basic rules:
    - The only way to be sure you are never followed online is never to go online
    - The only way to be sure you are never listened on phone is never to use a phone
    - The only way to be sure you are never connected to a cloud is never to go online because your emails, the friends wall on Facebook, the news article on CNN, even this post you are reading now, all that is in the cloud
    - The only way to be sure you are never followed is to live alone and never leave home

    But, in reality, use of brain and logics is allowed. Windows does not call home to "leak" your credentials, that noise you hear on phone does most probably not mean NSA is listening you, Google is not interested in your bank account number and login credentials and so on.
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  10.    02 Apr 2015 #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    If the NSA and Pentagon can be hacked then your copy of Windows 10 can as well
    Sure. Except the NSA have encryption keys for your hard drive anyway

    This quote
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I would not use any Windows for banking. Only Linux with a good firewall.
    is just beyond silly.

    If you are at home behind your home router you may as well turn off your software firewall - you don't need it. Quite what anyone thinks a software firewall on your home network has to do with bank authentication is utterly beyond me. I mean Hello??
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