1.    03 May 2016 #1
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Random annoyance


    I leave my desktop (running Windows 10) usually 24/7 because I use plex and watch stuff on several different TVs on the house at random times so that's why I leave it running.

    Any who, if I let it run and not use it for over a day, sometimes it goes black screen, I can see the cursor and move it around but the only way to get anything to work is hard shut down and reboot. The weirdest part of all this, when it's a black screen, plex still works. Ctrl alt delete doesn't do anything at all.
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  2.    03 May 2016 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro (Mix of Builds) / Linux Mint

    Is it set in power options to turn off the screen?

    I'd suggest in power settings to never turn off the screen, and when not at it to just power off the monitor(s), which is what I do.

    Not saying that's it, but something to try.
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  3.    03 May 2016 #3
    Join Date : Sep 2015
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    Windows 10 Home

    My friend's computer was doing the same thing. I had him turn off hibernate and set sleep mode to "never. Then turn on Screen Saver.
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  4.    03 May 2016 #4
    Join Date : Nov 2013
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    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32

    Neet topic title....but, in computers there is nothing that happens at "Random". There has to be either programming or a physical cause for everything a computer does.

    The standard home computer, never has been, is not now, or ever will be designed for 24x7 operation.
    There are special "Server" models that ARE specifically designed and built for that kind of service.
    Even a special OS, called "Windows Server" is written just for that purpose.

    Our PC's are made out of the cheapest 'Hobby Grade' components, assembled by the lowest bidder (Usually Chinese).
    Even Windows itself, was never written to be run 24x7. There are things that need to be done in Windows, like saving the active copy of the Registry, sitting in RAM, to the Hard Drive for permanent storage, that can only be done during a full shutdown and cold restart.

    Before I ever started working on PC's, now 36 years, I worked on Mainframe Computers. With very few exceptions, those mainframes I worked on were shut down every night, if only for a few minutes. They called that "Bouncing the System".
    That did a massive RESET to the entire system/network, which did bring everything up to date and improved performance.

    I've worked on many PC's, that were used for receiving faxes, etc., where they needed to be kept running, but in almost every case, we programmed a "Reboot" into the Task Scheduler, for sometime in the early AM.
    Also included in that reboot, was a routine to clean out temp files and other garbage collection. Even a weekly Defrag can be programmed into the system.

    So a PC that is left ON, 24x7 needs some very careful setup, to make sure it does not load up with garbage and die!
    Remembering still, that it was NEVER designed for that kind of service.

    Good Luck!
    TM
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  5.    03 May 2016 #5
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Poole Dorset UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    Neet topic title....but, in computers there is nothing that happens at "Random". There has to be either programming or a physical cause for everything a computer does.

    The standard home computer, never has been, is not now, or ever will be designed for 24x7 operation.
    There are special "Server" models that ARE specifically designed and built for that kind of service.
    Even a special OS, called "Windows Server" is written just for that purpose.

    Our PC's are made out of the cheapest 'Hobby Grade' components, assembled by the lowest bidder (Usually Chinese).
    Even Windows itself, was never written to be run 24x7. There are things that need to be done in Windows, like saving the active copy of the Registry, sitting in RAM, to the Hard Drive for permanent storage, that can only be done during a full shutdown and cold restart.

    Before I ever started working on PC's, now 36 years, I worked on Mainframe Computers. With very few exceptions, those mainframes I worked on were shut down every night, if only for a few minutes. They called that "Bouncing the System".
    That did a massive RESET to the entire system/network, which did bring everything up to date and improved performance.

    I've worked on many PC's, that were used for receiving faxes, etc., where they needed to be kept running, but in almost every case, we programmed a "Reboot" into the Task Scheduler, for sometime in the early AM.
    Also included in that reboot, was a routine to clean out temp files and other garbage collection. Even a weekly Defrag can be programmed into the system.

    So a PC that is left ON, 24x7 needs some very careful setup, to make sure it does not load up with garbage and die!
    Remembering still, that it was NEVER designed for that kind of service.

    Good Luck!
    TM
    Thanks for the above made a very interesting read
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  6.    03 May 2016 #6
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    PA, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro (Mix of Builds) / Linux Mint

    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    Our PC's are made out of the cheapest 'Hobby Grade' components, assembled by the lowest bidder (Usually Chinese).
    TM, I liked your read, but for myself, I disagree with the above.

    I built my PC so I'm one exception, I doubt that my EVGA Z97 Classified could be considered either cheap or hobby grade hehehe.... (nor most of my other components), I'm just having a little fun with you ... Sorry.

    I think you meant most retail purchased PC's ...
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  7.    03 May 2016 #7
    Join Date : May 2016
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    It's not the power settings, I have hibernate disabled.

    As for the hardware, I could go through the everything, and list everything off, but I bought all the parts and built it myself. I built it 4 years ago for $1200
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  8.    07 May 2016 #8
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Central Florida
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    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32

    Guys! Guys! Guys!

    I build my own computers too.... and, I have since 1980. But if you look closely, almost every PC part that you can buy on the US Retail market is made in China, or occasionally Japan or Korea.

    I'd love to see the PC that's made 100% with US made parts. That industry no longer exists!

    So I run my PC as smart as I can, so as not to over-stress it.

    Cheers Mates!
    TechnoMage
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  9.    08 May 2016 #9
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    Serbia
    Posts : 10,627
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    Parts may have been made in China but for some fakes emulating "real stuff", everything is made by standards established by non Chinese companies all over the world and mostly in USA and Japan and made on machines and with materials from those two countries.
    Those old enough should remember days of "Made like cheap Japanese toy" but look where they are now. Before China most of electronic stuff was made in Singapore, Taiwan, Korea etc. everywhere labor and taxes were fraction of what in western world was. That didn't lessen or improve quality.
    For years now I'm leaving my main computer 24/7 on and most of that time it's running some programs so it's not even in idle state, With decent cooling nothing ever got worn prematurely or died. Keep in mind that they are always overclocked to near maximum. It's far more likely that components or even whole computer will be upgraded/changed in few years anyway. Most damage (apart from overheating or power surges) happens when turning equipment on or off.
    HDDs are also most vulnerable when starting up and shutting down often.
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