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  1.    28 Apr 2016 #1
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    Yet Another Font Issue in Win 10


    In the attached display snippet below you can see my problem. This is a snippet of the Display Settings screen; the different choices along the left side. Clear example of the problem is the difference in the two f characters in the word Offline Maps. The first f has a thick vertical section and the second f has a very thin vertical section.

    What is going on and how can I fix it?

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  2.    28 Apr 2016 #2
    Join Date : Apr 2016
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    Windows 10 Professional x64

    I was about to tell you I have the same problem, but finally I was unable to find an example as clear as yours. Is your display at your screen's native resolution, or do you use some scaling ? I suppose that could explain things.

    The Settings app is ugly anyway. I miss the good old control panel, as well as several options that were sacrificed on the "Let's run PCs like smartphones and touchpads" altar...
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  3.    28 Apr 2016 #3
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    Thread Starter

    I am running at native resolution (1920x1080) and at 100% (recommended).
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  4.    28 Apr 2016 #4
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    Windows 10 Professional x64

    Finally, I was able to get something similar (look at the "p" on the first and second line) :
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    I took this from the "Accounts" settings screen (and yes my system is french). I personally don't care much about this since I'm not using the Settings app very much, and I suspect everyone is affected, hence the problem comes from Microsoft. Maybe changing the font would solve the problem but I'm not sure it's possible by clean methods and I doubt it would work anyway...
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  5.    29 Apr 2016 #5
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,870
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    It is called antialiasing - where screen font smoothing is performed by darkening pixels adjacent to dark parts of the character glyph, rather than just filling pixels with the fully saturated colour, or black, which just appear blocky.

    Sometimes the effect is described as blurrry or fuzzy.

    It is a compromise for text that could be viewed on a desktop monitor or a tablet or mobile screen (which can be rotated by 90 degrees), which have different coloured sub-pixel layouts.

    It does not work perfectly on all screens at native resolutions. There have been lots of discussions with keywords like "blurry text" and "blurry fonts" on this forum in the past.
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  6.    29 Apr 2016 #6
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    In addition to what Fafhrd said, you can adjust this to some extent with Cleartype setting. Just type cleartype in search or Cortana and follow the instructions.
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  7.    29 Apr 2016 #7
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    It is called antialiasing - where screen font smoothing is performed by darkening pixels adjacent to dark parts of the character glyph, rather than just filling pixels with the fully saturated colour, or black, which just appear blocky.

    Sometimes the effect is described as blurrry or fuzzy.

    It is a compromise for text that could be viewed on a desktop monitor or a tablet or mobile screen (which can be rotated by 90 degrees), which have different coloured sub-pixel layouts.

    It does not work perfectly on all screens at native resolutions. There have been lots of discussions with keywords like "blurry text" and "blurry fonts" on this forum in the past.
    Yep and this is the major departure from windows 7.
    Also my biggest complaint about 10, its a tablet/small screen OS and made
    for it, not my 24" Asus monitor.

    So be forewarned those thinking of the upgrade to 10. If your older
    like me, and need nice clean text, brightness and contrast it may be hard to get.

    I use the Ceti Mint theme all because everthing is washed out and I cant change fonts.

    Other then this, 10 is good, its my pet peev I guess.
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  8.    29 Apr 2016 #8
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    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    ClearType technology has been abandoned for "Modern" elements of Windows 8-10, as well as for some Microsoft Desktop application windows - in Internet Explorer, it has been particularly noticeable having popular comparators on the desktop, such as Firefox and Chrome browsers, with which many people have subjective differences on the clearer visual appearance of the same web pages with ClearType operative in FF and C and monochrome anti-aliasing in IE.

    Perhaps as Windows 10 evolves, specific desktop enhancement features may be included to improve the experience on screen, without detracting from the mobile and tablet viewing experience for others using 10.

    Certainly the graphics hardware capabilities of Desktop and laptops is generally much superior to that of many handheld devices, and Microsoft certainly owes the loyal desktop user base a better visual experience than that available to them since Windows 7 has been superseded.
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  9.    29 Apr 2016 #9
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Thanks for clearing this up for me (and us)! I didn't experience much problems with either of browsers you've mentioned, but remember some problems with FF, which were due to graphic card problems.
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  10.    29 Apr 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    ClearType technology has been abandoned for "Modern" elements of Windows 8-10, as well as for some Microsoft Desktop application windows - in Internet Explorer, it has been particularly noticeable having popular comparators on the desktop, such as Firefox and Chrome browsers, with which many people have subjective differences on the clearer visual appearance of the same web pages with ClearType operative in FF and C and monochrome anti-aliasing in IE.

    Perhaps as Windows 10 evolves, specific desktop enhancement features may be included to improve the experience on screen, without detracting from the mobile and tablet viewing experience for others using 10.

    Certainly the graphics hardware capabilities of Desktop and laptops is generally much superior to that of many handheld devices, and Microsoft certainly owes the loyal desktop user base a better visual experience than that available to them since Windows 7 has been superseded.
    While that is a good explanation, it is also noteworthy that when a new OS
    is released the features set has always been deprecated to provide
    legacy support for current existing users.

    As an applications programmer I deal with this all time. It's best practice
    NOT to remove features, unless there buggy or the tech has changed to make
    them totally unusable. It's an unwritten golden rule of programming.

    In this case many users are left with little support for their desktop computers
    as far as application clarity. Not withstanding, the first job of any OS is to give the BEST
    experience out of the box. Windows 10 does not do that visually. If they now add this BASIC
    function back in now for fonts and better monitor/visual support, then it seems they rushed 10
    out the door.

    It's just my pet peeve, otherwise I'm happy with everything else in 10.
    My 2 cents.
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