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  1.    15 Mar 2015 #11
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    The keys will come with your retail purchase. I don't know if you'll have to buy the disk or if Windows 10 will also be available as a download.
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  2.    15 Mar 2015 #12
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    You're making a number of incorrect assumptions, which I am of course making assumptions that the licenses will continue as they have in the past.

    First, You don't "surrender" your licenses for the previous version. You are legally allowed to run either OS on the same machine. This is known as the "downgrade rights" option. You are free to upgrade to 10, then downgrade again. I would interpret this to mean that you can also have a dual boot situation, but i'm not a lawyer.

    Secondly, if you are upgrading a retail copy, the upgrade has the same "retail right" as the original. So you can move it to another computer. What Microsoft is referring to as "for the life of the device" is for OEM versions, with 99% of people have. Nearly all things Microsoft state about licensing of OS's are under the assumption that its an OEM license. The same is true of other upgrades in the past. The key is that you must treat the old copy and the upgrade as a single license, despite whether or not you have new license keys.

    Again, I'm not a lawyer, and this is based on previous licensing which could change for Windows 10, but I wouldn't worry about it until Windows 10 has been released.

    I mean, what difference does worrying about this now make? You can't change it....
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  3.    15 Mar 2015 #13
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    Windows Licensing


    "Remember this is going to be a dual boot on one machine. ... In order to dual boot Windows 7, you will need to have two licenses (meaning you ..." (from Google moments ago)

    One of us doesn't understand Windows licensing very well...............
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  4.    15 Mar 2015 #14
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    Win 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    "Remember this is going to be a dual boot on one machine. ... In order to dual boot Windows 7, you will need to have two licenses (meaning you ..." (from Google moments ago)

    One of us doesn't understand Windows licensing very well...............

    But if you installed them on separate drives but run on the same machine, I don't think you need 2 licenses. You don't use them at the same. It's only one or the other. So, why 2 licences?
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  5.    15 Mar 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    But if you installed them on separate drives but run on the same machine, I don't think you need 2 licenses. You don't use them at the same. It's only one or the other. So, why 2 licences?
    A license covers One operating system.
    If you dual boot you are using two operating systems so you need two licenses.
    A Windows license doesn't universally cover any and all OSs.
    One system one license.
    Two systems two licenses.

    Check out the record number of OSs installed on one machine and every one of them requires its own license!
    No free lunches from MS!
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  6.    15 Mar 2015 #16
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    I always thought if a motherboad goes bad, then you can replace with another regardless of the warranty and still keep the OEM. In my case, dell replaced my windows 7 motherboard and it was a similar but not the exact model of the previous motherboard. No activation was required and was even able to do a clean install of windows 7 using dell windows re-installation disk that I got earlier from dell. That didn't require activation either.
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  7.    15 Mar 2015 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    I always thought if a motherboad goes bad, then you can replace with another regardless of the warranty and still keep the OEM. In my case, dell replaced my windows 7 motherboard and it was a similar but not the exact model of the previous motherboard. No activation was required and was even able to do a clean install of windows 7 using dell windows re-installation disk that I got earlier from dell. That didn't require activation either.
    Yes, that's correct. The OEM license allows replaced components if they are the same manufacturer model *OR* a manufacturer designated equivalent.
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  8.    15 Mar 2015 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    I always thought if a motherboad goes bad, then you can replace with another regardless of the warranty and still keep the OEM. In my case, dell replaced my windows 7 motherboard and it was a similar but not the exact model of the previous motherboard. No activation was required and was even able to do a clean install of windows 7 using dell windows re-installation disk that I got earlier from dell. That didn't require activation either.
    The two motherboards were similar enough that re-activation wasn't necessary. You might also have been able to re-activate by phone if the mobos were not similar. That decision is made by MS, and maybe by a customer service rep speaking very poor English, over a very bad phone connection.
    I really don't recommend it if there is ANY other option.
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  9.    15 Mar 2015 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    A license covers One operating system.
    If you dual boot you are using two operating systems so you need two licenses.
    A Windows license doesn't universally cover any and all OSs.
    One system one license.
    Two systems two licenses.

    Check out the record number of OSs installed on one machine and every one of them requires its own license!
    No free lunches from MS!
    Actually, if you have two windows 7 installed 0n two different partitions, you can use the other as backup that is allowed in the EULA. If you use the same oem version twice on one computer it is not piracy it is considered a backup but if you use it on two different computers it is piracy.

    Technically, I have a few image backups but I should only have one backup.
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  10.    15 Mar 2015 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    One system one license.
    Exactly. I have 2 copies of Win 7 (one cloned copy for testing purposes) on my system with one license. As long you run them on the same machine, there shouldn't be any issue.

    Now, upgrading the cloned Win 7 copy to Win 10 and running it on the same machine with the original Win 7 installation is something that I am curious about. Do you think Win 7 will get deactivated?
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