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  1.    20 Mar 2016 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhk View Post
    That is a clear and precise reply. Your post #15 is not, and I misunderstood you.
    Yes I should have been more precise in my reply Sorry.


    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR
    You can keep your same Microsoft Account login,
    I will give your suggestion a try .

    Thanks to both of you davidhk and NavyLCDR { from a old USCG Retiree } for all your Help .

    Rick
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  2.    20 Mar 2016 #22
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    A FYI =
    I used NavyLCDR suggestion
    ( You can keep your same Microsoft Account login, if you are using MS Account login. Convert you old user account to a local account to disassociate the MS Account login with it. Convert your new user account to a MS Account login and assign it your existing MS Account. Then copy over your personal files you want to keep and delete the old user account that you converted to a local account.)
    And I'm pretty much back up to Normal Having most everything backup and using Ninite Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once to reinstall some programs along with MozBackup MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird to get Firefox back to where it was it was Not to bad of a experience .

    Thanks again for the help
    Rick
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  3.    20 Mar 2016 #23
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    You can wrap your quotes for others using the "Reply with Ouote" option or surround the text with the standard quotation brackets since your replies are coming out like hyperlinks at times.

    quote being surrounded by brackets [, ] = start quotation, /quote surrounded with brackets [, ] = end quote
    Glad to hear NavyLCDR's suggestion for seeing account created smoothed things out. This is why I had waited until you replied to find just what type of install you saw there before any mention of a repair or followup clean install since a second upgrade to repair a first generally won't work as it carries the problems along with it.

    Typically a smooth operating previous Windows install whether for 10 or a previous version has the best chance for a successful upgrade to begin with. I have even seen clean 7 installs trashed with buggy outcomes on 10 upgrades at times and why those simply can't be repaired. With a clean install however you can still try some in house repair options before considering one of the two "Last Resort" options which apparently did the job for you.

    You might still want to give the SFC or System File Checker tool a run just the same however to see what that reports. If there are any other minor problems that can usually clean them up. Simply right click on the Start button and select the Command prompt(admin) option there and type "sfc /scannow" in at the prompt, hit enter and watch for the results. From having seen a clean install even those at times may not see something fully unpacked to the drive why the tool can come in handy for minor issues.
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  4.    20 Mar 2016 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplemtn View Post
    A FYI =
    I used NavyLCDR suggestion
    ( You can keep your same Microsoft Account login, if you are using MS Account login. Convert you old user account to a local account to disassociate the MS Account login with it. Convert your new user account to a MS Account login and assign it your existing MS Account. Then copy over your personal files you want to keep and delete the old user account that you converted to a local account.)
    And I'm pretty much back up to Normal Having most everything backup and using Ninite Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once to reinstall some programs along with MozBackup MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird to get Firefox back to where it was it was Not to bad of a experience .

    Thanks again for the help
    Rick
    Nice to know you have fixed it.
    Happy computing.
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  5.    20 Mar 2016 #25
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    Night Hawk "You might still want to give the SFC or System File Checker tool a run just the same however to see what that reports."

    I'm running that now.. Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations

    I started to follow you directions " right click on the Start button and select the Command prompt(admin) " and AGAIN No response if I Right click (Windows Icon on the Taskbar) the list of items opens ,
    but Nothing appears to happen for example if I click on Programs and Features [ it does Not open the Control Panel ] or none of the other listed Items open anything.

    The Right click was working , I have only reinstall my programs .Listed below

    Firefox, Chrome,AVG,Filezilla,Glary Utilities Pro,HotAlarmClock,Logitech Mouse 570 Malwarebytes.Malwarebytes-AntiExpolite,MalwarebytesAnti-Ransomware,MozBackup,SeagateDashboard,Memeo Premium,7 Zip,Adobe Reader,Adobe Air,CCleaner.Lastpass.
    Ninite[used to install some programs],VLC.LibreOffice,Picasa,ImgBurn.

    All the other programs were all ready installed .

    davidhk "Nice to know you have fixed it." Well it was Fixed for awhile

    Any Ideas or help

    Rick
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  6.    20 Mar 2016 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplemtn View Post
    I started to follow you directions " right click on the Start button and select the Command prompt(admin) " and AGAIN No response if I Right click (Windows Icon on the Taskbar) the list of items opens ,
    but Nothing appears to happen for example if I click on Programs and Features [ it does Not open the Control Panel ] or none of the other listed Items open anything.

    The Right click was working , I have only reinstall my programs .Listed below

    Firefox, Chrome,
    AVG,Filezilla,Glary Utilities Pro,HotAlarmClock,Logitech Mouse 570 Malwarebytes.Malwarebytes-AntiExpolite,MalwarebytesAnti-Ransomware,MozBackup,SeagateDashboard,Memeo Premium,7 Zip,Adobe Reader,Adobe Air,CCleaner.Lastpass.
    Ninite[used to install some programs],VLC.LibreOffice,Picasa,ImgBurn.

    All the other programs were all ready installed .

    Rick
    I would uninstall the programs in red and see if it helps.

    I haven't used AVG in years but it might be part of the problem too.
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  7.    20 Mar 2016 #27
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    I hate to say this but that type of problem has been reported from buggy upgrade not clean installs but....??? I have to suspect a buggy clean install instead! The ultimate solution is of course the last resort option to clean up all problems.

    Maybe a look at the media you used being the source of the problem would be one idea. On past occasions when any install for older versions like Vista, 7, the 8 Customer Preview, or even a custom install seen for a Linux distro coming out flaky would mean the write of the iso to the flash drive being used wasn't good or the drive itself was suspect where another one was to be used for the next attempt which would then come out good. On other occasions however it was simply the second attempt that suddenly took off to end up with positive results.

    One non MS blog for three separate remedies for problems being seen with the new Start menu instructs on how to use the Powershell "Second method" to get the Start menu repaired. Fix: Start Menu Disappears in Windows 10

    The problems seen with the Start menu are unrelated to which av program you are using since a buggy upgrade install will also see this type of problem with other programs in use. When the 10 installer doesn't see something unpacked to the drive fully you end up with this type of problem even before the av program is even installed when upgrading from a previous version as well as for totally new clean installs. I suspect you haven't been using the Start menu much and why this is only now being found.
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  8.    20 Mar 2016 #28
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    derekimo Thanks for you quick reply
    Quote Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
    I would uninstall the programs in red and see if it helps.
    I would uninstall the programs in red and see if it helps.= I will do that.

    I'm also setting up a test account to see what happens when I install Newprograms

    Rick
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  9.    20 Mar 2016 #29
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    Night Hawk thanks for the informative reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    I suspect you haven't been using the Start menu much and why this is only now being found.
    I suspect you haven't been using the Start menu much and why this is only now being found.= This is True

    Before I do a Clean Install I'm going to do some Test with other New Accounts
    Rick

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  10.    20 Mar 2016 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
    derekimo I would uninstall the programs in red and see if it helps.
    .
    derekimo "I would uninstall the programs in red Glary Utilities Pro,HotAlarmClock "

    I uninstalled "AVG,Glary Utilities Pro,HotAlarmClock" No Change .

    Rick
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