1.    14 Mar 2016 #1
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    Start Menu doesn't appear


    Help! I'm working on my friend's Win 10 laptop, I just moved it from a mechanical hard disk to an SSD, but now the start menu doesn't appear when I left click on the Win logo (Though right clicking on it does the normal right click stuff)

    I tried doing an SFC /Scannow - but that did not have any results. Though I'd swear I ran it before, and it said there were system problems, but it could not fix them.

    My friend insisted that I delete the system repair partitions that were there before, and while I don't know for sure they were related, I suspect now that the are. But can't it get the files it needs off a Win 10 CD? - But regardless, it says it doesn't need it now, though I think otherwise. The problem with the start menu doing nothing when I click it is the main issue.

    thanks
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  2.    14 Mar 2016 #2
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    You might try 1,2, or 3 from this (do not try 4)
    SOLVED: Windows 10 Start Menu and Modern Apps Do Not Function - Up & Running Technologies Calgary

    failing which do an in-place upgrade repair install
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
    - which leaves all programs installed and most settings intact.

    As to your partitions and disk structure, to have someone comment I'd suggest you
    a. Describe how you transferred the OS to the SSD
    b. Post a screenshot of diskmgmt.msc (type that in a run box)

    I'd suggest you get that checked first if any doubts.

    (There are many many threads on start menu issues on the forum- please feel free just to search
    start menu doesn't
    start men won't
    etc)

    Good luck!
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  3.    14 Mar 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    You might try 1,2, or 3 from this (do not try 4)
    Results of step 1: The system cannot find the file specified.

    Results of step 2: Did not fix problem. Nothing seemed to happen at all.

    Results of step 3: Error 0x800f081f The source files could not be found. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information see ...
    The DISM log can be found at ...

    I know you said to not do step 4, but I already did before talking to you, it did not help.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    As to your partitions and disk structure, to have someone comment I'd suggest you
    a. Describe how you transferred the OS to the SSD
    b. Post a screenshot of diskmgmt.msc (type that in a run box)
    On the mechanical disk that was stock, since there was not much there, I shrunk the partition to smaller than the SSD, and then cloned it over to the SSD with Acronis True Image, and after cloning then expanded the OS partition to fill the space on the disk. There is 900 MB of Unallocated space that I can not seem to do anything with. I would like to use it in the OS partition of course, but can not for unknown reasons. I do not know what the 100 MB Healthy EFI partition is either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    (There are many many threads on start menu issues on the forum- please feel free just to search
    start menu doesn't
    start men won't
    etc)
    I have already done that before talking to you. Most of them apply to the prerelease version of Win 10, not the version that I am using. Also, most of them say to use PowerShell Command to Reregister packages. Done that, it did not work.


    I am afraid of having to do that repair install, but I am also afraid it will fail because the partitions were deleted.


    thank you
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  4.    15 Mar 2016 #4
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    Hi, Disk structure: (I'm not an expert hence my comment above) but you should have
    - an EFI partition
    FYI:
    EFI system partition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    - with commentary here:
    boot - How do the and UEFI *.efi files relate? - Super User
    - a recovery partition of around 450Mb - that's Windows recovery not manufacturer's of course
    "Without this the PC will still boot except you cannot create the recovery disk or get into Recovery Environment for trouble shooting."
    - a Windows 'C' partition
    for Win 10 on UEFI.

    I'm not going to attempt to comment further on that, but it would be better to make sure you've got that right (= as it would be expected to be after installing Win 10 normally). Correcting this can be complex.

    If you're really lucky an in-place repair may also create the recovery partition- I don't know. But I guess you'd need room available on your disk.

    So..
    You've already used the Powershell commands (which break apps since the November build 10586 - they typically appear in the start menu with an @ before them and don't work).

    That means your only way forward is the in-place upgrade repair install.

    This I've used a couple of times, and have been impressed. It is relatively safe, and one of the best innovations in Win 10.
    If you know what disk imaging is (and you should, 'cos it offers such great security), then create a disk image before doing this.
    Thus if anything goes wrong you can always restore your image - provided you also create the imaging program's boot disk.
    Macrium Reflect free is recommended by many. There are others.

    The in-place upgrade will refresh Windows, after the manner of a Windows installation.
    - all/most associations will be unchanged
    - all your programs will be left installed
    - you will lose any custom fonts
    - you will lose any customised system icons
    - you may need to re-establish your Wi-Fi connection
    - you will need to redo Windows updates subsequent to the build you have used for the repair install
    - Windows.old will be created
    - system restore will be turned off- you should turn it on again and I recommend you manually schedule a daily restore point.

    Recommendation:
    Before you perform this major repair procedure, do create a disk image.

    Please consider using disk imaging regularly. It's a brilliant way to
    - preserve your system (and your sanity)
    - back up your data
    - restore your system to a previously working state in a relatively short time

    You certainly won't be able to merge the unallocated space with your windows partition using diskmgmt.msc or from within Windows.
    Last edited by dalchina; 15 Mar 2016 at 03:03.
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