Windows 10: Decent Software Package manager

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  1. Posts : 50
    Windows 10 Insider (fast ring)
       26 Feb 2015 #11

    Its easy to turn off automatic updates
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  2.    26 Feb 2015 #12

    The store concept for Windows is only for Metro apps. The desktop apps you get at any download site or purchase at Best Buy. Typically Metro apps are apps not complex and perform one task. They are basically a template over web browser. Desktop apps tend to be more complex and have options to do multiple complex things. Example of a Metro app i like if NFL Sunday ticket for DirecTV. The Metro app allows you to launch it and go right to a listing of the games and you click and the game comes up. Doing this on the desktop (which doesn't have a desktop app) you goto the DTV site then you have to find NFL Sunday ticket and login then you select your game. The Metro apps are approved by MS while the desktop apps aren't and most freeware have crapware that installs if you don't answer the question properly. The whole difference is Linux developers are doing as a hobby and Windows are doing to make a living. Even free software packages fins ways to get revenue (ads and crapware).
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  3. Posts : 11,218
    Windows 10 Pro
       26 Feb 2015 #13

    adamf said: View Post
    I'm not sure how up to date Chocolatey packages are though as it is dependent on the authors providing the latest versions and it has a problem with updates How to automatically keep all locally installed Chocolatey Packages up to date? - Stack Overflow
    It's worth to remember that Chocolatey as an independently working Windows package manager / repository and as a package provider for PowerShell OneGet are two different things.

    Chocolatey can also be used in Windows 10, if the user prefers Command Prompt approach over PowerShell and OneGet. Chocolatey tutorial at our sister site the Eight Forums: Chocolatey - Install Apps from Command Line.

    Kari
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  4.    26 Feb 2015 #14

    I think in the future The Store will have the ability to down load full desktop programs. . .somethings just take time to develop. In OSx the App Store at first was only for cheesy apps, albeit now you can download full programs like Photoshop, Adobe Audition, etc. Once you have download them from the App Store they are at your disposal anytime you do a rebuild or install a new system (OS X).
    At present they have Excel, and Word in the form of Modern apps for testing. I have been playing with Excel since I write medicals apps for excel, and at this point it has worked without any faults. I Know most of us want it now, however, we must remember this is not just new for us, also for MS.
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    Windows 10 Pro
       26 Feb 2015 #15

    What I like in OneGet is that it allows me to build my own repositories. I can create a repository containing all my standard apps and when reinstalling or setting up a new computer, install all of them with one command silently in the background without any user interaction.
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  6.    26 Feb 2015 #16

    I wonder with this new one get system whether you'l get people setting up software repositories like you do on Linux. If we do that's another great way to get software.
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  7. Posts : 11,218
    Windows 10 Pro
       26 Feb 2015 #17

    swarfega said: View Post
    I wonder with this new one get system whether you'l get people setting up software repositories like you do on Linux. If we do that's another great way to get software.
    Yes, that's already working in OneGet although still in beta phase. I have written a "Build your own OneGet provider" tutorial already but I do not want to publish it as long as it still needs some "unofficial cutting the corners" activity.

    For those interested, here's the Oneget ProviderSDK on Github: https://github.com/OneGet/Providersdk
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  8.    26 Feb 2015 #18

    Remember we are in Windows and not in Linux where things are easy. Microsoft succeeded again to make a simple task as complicated as possible. I think this OneGet is useless for a layman. Kari's tutorial is great but try that on one of the 850 members of my computer club. They were already confused when we moved from IE8 to IE9 and the Favorites had moved from the left side of the window to the right side of the window.

    In Linux I launch the package manager ant type the name of the program I want (picture 1)

    Then I click on the name and click on Install (picture 2)

    A minute later I have it in the Internet section of my Start menu (picture 3) - that's what I call "easy".


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  9.    26 Feb 2015 #19

    whs said: View Post
    Remember we are in Windows and not in Linux where things are easy. Microsoft succeeded again to make a simple task as complicated as possible. I think this OneGet is useless for a layman. Kari's tutorial is great but try that on one of the 850 members of my computer club. They were already confused when we moved from IE8 to IE9 and the Favorites had moved from the left side of the window to the right side of the window.
    Or, maybe... just maybe... you're jumping to conclusions.

    OneGet is still in development. This is the base api and command line, just like Linux has a command line. GUI's will be built on top of it, just like they are in Linux, and just like they have been for things like NuGet and Chocolatey:

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    Let's not predict the doom, or uselessness of something before it's even finished.
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  10.    26 Feb 2015 #20

    Mystere said: View Post
    Or, maybe... just maybe... you're jumping to conclusions.

    OneGet is still in development. This is the base api and command line, just like Linux has a command line. GUI's will be built on top of it, just like they are in Linux, and just like they have been for things like NuGet and Chocolatey:
    Let's hope you are right. I am looking forward to that easy UI. In Linux I never use the command line.
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