1. Joined : Dec 2015
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    Windows 10
       03 Mar 2016 #1

    (GPT) SSD to SSD cloning & Confused about alignment etc..


    Hi, so I've recieved a shipment of several SSD's for different uses, one of which was to upgrade 2 Laptops (and changing out my desktops 250GB to a 500GB SSD)

    The first laptop was getting a 250GB SSD, I used a cloning kit that I've used before with success, (EZ GIG IV from Apricorn)
    This laptop is pretty old, and i suspect that it's BIOS only (not UEFI), and therefore i believe that the original HDD is running MBR, and this cloning worked perfectly and the computer started right up, but it felt very slow but i took it as a "cpu bottleneck" since it is running a dual core 1.3ghz pentium cpu..
    But now after researching a lot since my desktop cloning isn't working at all, I have seen that one should "align" the disk for better performance and durability.. What? Do I have to do this and how can i do this in a hassle free way?

    And now for the most annoying problem! My desktop which i really can't have any hiccups in, and I litterarly have to be able to access 24/7 is having huge problems with cloning the entire 250GB SSD (including all the partitions that windows added..) to the newly installed 500GB SSD, when i used the EZ GIG IV thing, windows told me that the system needed repair and a (?startup.efi? thing was missing?) Both theese drives are GPT btw.
    Which program could i use to clone this? (reinstalling is not an option) I have made a bootable USB with CloneZilla on it, but I've read that it doesent work well with GPT-UEFI drives? This also worries me since the "old" 250GB SSD will later be Transferred to my laptop, and everything there is also GPT-UEFI.... This is frustrating too since my Laptop is what i use for my schoolwork and downtime there is not an option either, and the harddrive is looking more and more like its giving up on life...

    If anything need claryfying then please let me know
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  2. Joined : Aug 2015
    Maine
    Posts : 20,990
    Windows10Pro 64Bit on 2 DeskTop Computers
       03 Mar 2016 #2

    You could try using Macrium Reflect free version, to clone and also to make complete image backups. It can handle your UEFI just fine.
    I would 1st make a Complete Image Backup of your OS 1st, before doing anything else. Keep the image on a 2nd drive. Also if you do install Macrium, make the rescue USB/DVD disk. and keep that incase of any future problems with booting into your Windows.
    My Computer is also UEFI and I only have 4 partitions. Windows made them in my case, as I did a clean install.

    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
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  3. Joined : Mar 2015
    Posts : 79
    windows 7
       03 Mar 2016 #3

    First step follow the instructions to see if you are misaligned or not:
    Speed Up Your SSD By Correctly Aligning Your Partitions
    Jim
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  4. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 20
    Windows 10
       03 Mar 2016 #4

    otisdog said: View Post
    First step follow the instructions to see if you are misaligned or not:
    Speed Up Your SSD By Correctly Aligning Your Partitions
    Jim
    I checked into CMD (diskpart) to see if the disk was misaligned, after writing list partitions it said "Partition 1, Primary, 221GB, Offset: 11GB
    I downloaded the MiniTool Partition Wizard. (the only one i found that didnt make my brain crumble) and when i chose align all partitions it told me that everything was perfectly aligned! (this disk is using the MBR system too). So should i trust it? I dont know?

    Edit: Ah! The EZ GIG IV software does 4K alignment automatically
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  5. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 20
    Windows 10
       03 Mar 2016 #5

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    You could try using Macrium Reflect free version, to clone and also to make complete image backups. It can handle your UEFI just fine.
    I would 1st make a Complete Image Backup of your OS 1st, before doing anything else. Keep the image on a 2nd drive. Also if you do install Macrium, make the rescue USB/DVD disk. and keep that incase of any future problems with booting into your Windows.
    My Computer is also UEFI and I only have 4 partitions. Windows made them in my case, as I did a clean install.

    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
    I backed up my stuff on my backup drive
    I am in the middle of running the Macrium Reflect software and cloning the disk. It seems to be working fine!
    I also ticked the option to copy litterarly all sectors, and not the intelligent version. Believe that this might be a bit more guaranteed to work? And the SSD's are basically identical, the only difference is the dubble size.

    Edit: Well, The clone worked fine i think, but since i made a sector copy (because i wanted no problems) I now saw that this resulted in a exactly identical amount of usable space, and a 200+GB unallocated space, which i cannot merge into the "primary" storage partition.. So well. I'm running the clone again, and this time with the standard settings

    2nd Edit: After running the clone with the standard settings, i still have a huge 255GB partition of unallocated space..
    Last edited by Sisrace; 03 Mar 2016 at 12:03.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7
       03 Mar 2016 #6
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  7. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro
       03 Mar 2016 #7

    Sisrace said: View Post
    2nd Edit: After running the clone with the standard settings, i still have a huge 255GB partition of unallocated space..
    That's what a sector by sector clone would give you. You only had 250GB of sectors on the old SSD to copy. I would suggest you now use MiniTool Partition Wizard to add the 255GB of free space to the C: drive partition.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 20
    Windows 10
       03 Mar 2016 #8

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    That's what a sector by sector clone would give you. You only had 250GB of sectors on the old SSD to copy. I would suggest you now use MiniTool Partition Wizard to add the 255GB of free space to the C: drive partition.
    I did this , I'm writing this from my computer running the SSD now and everything works perfectly! Thanks for the help! I will come back if my Laptop starts to refuse to work, but for now, this thread is solved
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