1.    26 Feb 2016 #1
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    do i need to make new recovery media after upgrading to win 10


    I upgrade to windows 10 after a month of it being out. I still have the windows 8.1 recovery media I made for my system do I need to make windows 10 recovery media for it? or will the windows 8.1 recovery media work and will I be able to re upgrade if I ever have to use it after the free upgrade period runs out?

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  2.    26 Feb 2016 #2
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    Answer is no. But I would make an image of the current setup. A lot easier to recover from that.
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  3.    26 Feb 2016 #3
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Besides seeing the 10 media created if you are able to boot live from a usb flash drive you can download the Media Creation tool in order to see the direct creation of the 10 media using an 8gb flash drive as the Threshold 2 Update contains both the Home and Pro edition in both 32bit and 64bit options since that had to cover all 10 installs for those not on on the Windows Insider Preview Program.

    The other option in case you need live access to the otherwise F8 recovery options but unable to get the F8 options for some sees an 8gb or 16gb Recovery Drive made up. That can also be used for seeing a full System Image Backup restored in case the existing 10 install gets trashed somehow? You can start up the Reset this PC option either while booting live from the 10 media or Recovery Drive made up or by going into the Control Panel see the same result. Refresh Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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  4.    26 Feb 2016 #4
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    doing it right now looked at one of the turorials on doing it and doing it right now using the create recovery drive function built into windows. uninstalled dells recovery maker because it was begging for money.
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  5.    26 Feb 2016 #5
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    Isn't that typical with any "Dell mare"?! Here when first getting into 10 a little late for the Insider Program to be sure and simply going with the July 29th launch 10240 build I was first trying to run the upgrade type install with a pair of storage drives left plugged in and got nowhere fast!

    When going to look over the clean install guide at the time and found out that was the reason the rest started moving on. But having that media made up! before you could simply skip the upgrade entirely and still see 10 activated following another guide those first upgrade installs were fright-mares! Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums

    When finding the 4gb size flash drive was simply going to be too small I ended up ordering several 8gb and 16gb flash drives both USB 2.0 and 3.0 with the 8gb having key chain holes for carrying a recovery drive along with you and not needing the 10 media itself for any quick repairs while on the go. I had just upgraded an older 7 laptop to 10 and didn't quite have the 10 dvd ordered later for the product key but also wanting the optical media since you couldn't call up the usual boot device menu on that model The new 10 laptop that replaced it won't boot from a flash drive either but does allow you to bring up that menu. UEFI factor in play there.
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  6.    26 Feb 2016 #6
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    You don't have to pay extra and upgrade Dell Backup and Recovery if you only want to make the Factory Recovery Media and possibly use those media to do a factory restore of your Dell machine as need may be down the road. That may or may not be perceived as of value to a given individual.

    The paid upgrade gives you (IMO, not worth it) file backup and some other bells and whistles.

    That being said, I agree with doing away with Dell Backup and Recovery but I only do that after I make the free Factory Restore Media and sock it away (usually in the box the machine came in). After that, I blow away the factory restore partition and reclaim the disk space it's hogging up.

    Looks like OP did make the factory restore media, so yeah, no use for DBAR beyond that point - who wants to get nagged to upgrade it?
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  7.    27 Feb 2016 #7
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    Well on the HP laptop I referred to earlier I ended nuking the entire drive when not able to shrink the OEM primary down any and cleared off every bloatware in the process to see a nice 64bit 10 Home install replace the first 64bit that replaced the immediate 32bit clean that replaced the totally buggy upgrade from the 32bit 7 Home Premium! Got all that?

    I had originally made a full system image backup with Acronis TI back when it was first bought I could restore in the event I had to use the warranty option. After 3 1/2yrs. however a drive going toast and the display likely back lit nothing seeing anything all was all the prompting needed to grab a recently just out in Sept. '15 Toshiba with 17" screen for easier viewing! The battery that came with it is also a 4hr. battery compared to the 2hr. one seen with the HP I had replaced a year ago for a 4hr. one last summer actually go the person could sit outside a care facility to see the chatter and watch a dvd out in the fresh air!

    The replacement being a 750 replacing a 500gb can serve as a portable backup drive or simply a spare in case the new laptop's drive gives out at some point. I first may end up bringing the old one into a shop to have a look at it however since I don't have the test equipment I need here besides a nice $80 Fluke that is. Need a good scope however.
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  8.    27 Feb 2016 #8
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    Yeah, I got all that. I've grown accustomed to parsing your sentences, Night Hawk.

    It didn't take me long at all, after I upgraded from Win 8.1 to WIn10 Home, to opt for the clean install and see that I didn't miss the Dell "extras" one bit.

    In any event, @hondacrv , as far as your original question - you can use the Win 8.1 recovery media to put your machine back to out-of-the-box state if need be. This would not impact the digital entitlement you've already established to Win10 when you upgraded. You can then (using the Win10 install media you are making) re-upgrade to Win10 as before - or, as has been discussed above, do a clean install of WIn10 to sidestep all the Dell particulars.

    Also, as advised above, a full disk image taken to an external drive (or at least a separate disk in a desktop) with a reliable imaging software is pretty much priceless for being able to reverse your path if things go wonky on you.
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  9.    27 Feb 2016 #9
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    yea I made new for windows 10 and I'm keeping the 8.1 media I created when I first got the system.

    its only profit for Dell and their parent company Denali Holdings when you buy their upgrades like 16 gb ram for 100 bucks when I just did that 2 days ago to my 1 1/2 year old system for 64 bucks or the dell back up and recovery premium gimmick
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  10.    27 Feb 2016 #10
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Gets rather pricey at times doesn't it?! Over the years Dell has all too often gotten a bad rep for how proprietized everything was made until the XP years were passing once Vista was out. From then on Dell had to start seeing new systems where you could use other then Dell only brand keyboards and mice with the growing trend in usb keyboards, mice, programmable, and combos. At one time Dell, HP, Epson, IBM, AST, you name it would see plugs that only fit the one brand only!

    The PS standard was one thing right there Dell was a hold out for a long time and then the Desktop market started to slump they started offering the choices of hardwares as well as whatever OS you want to run on their brand of machines when custom ordering from them! I couldn't even find a replacement keyboard for one old Dell desktop someone wanted to me to set up for their kids to be able to do homework on which would not be seeing any web connection.

    The 8.1 media for seeing the system brought back to factory would only be needed if you still are covered by a warranty. Other then that it would only be the choice of OS as far as which one you are going to continue running unless deciding as I did to get a key for 10 which did for the main and may end up doing at some point with a second build used for testing.
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