Whs, if that was pointed at me, I was being silly. Just going with the flow like everyone else making silly and facetious comments.
However, I do take testing seriously because I will be using the end product and want it to be the best it can be.
I think it is a smart move of MS that they engaged 2 Million testers. I hope they have a proper system for screening the feedback and channeling the results to the right people for action.
My point is looking at it from our side. Testing 10TP is not a job that we have been assigned to do - we do it because we like to tinker. Getting upset about certain things in the process is not worth it. Look at it as a fun project - nothing more.
If it weren't fun, I wouldn't be involved. I've been testing since the mid to late eighties and have always considered it a privilege and an honor that I've been selected to test certain products for Microsoft, whether I applied or was invited.
With Windows 10, I'm not sure there were invitations sent out, but I applied. I don't think any application was refused, to be honest. Because like beta testing was in the "old days", Microsoft wanted the IT, on down to the most rank novice who can't find their way around the OS or app when they start to testing. The reasoning behind this was to know if the most rank novice could actually use the product.
I realize this isn't "a job I've been assigned to do" but in a way it is. I applied and was accepted. So I will do my dead level best. That doesn't mean I won't joke around with the rest of the guys and gals in the various threads; that's my nature. And yes, some of my jokes do fall flat, but again that doesn't mean I am complaining about Microsoft's decisions. It just means my comment fell flat and wasn't made clear enough to be understood. Nuff said.
I'm closer to that 'rank novice' than to some of you folks who can find your way around the OS in your sleep. I think it's great that I have an opportunity to play with W10 before release. I just wish there were lots of non-technical users doing this, and giving feedback as well. But I guess unless you find your way to a forum like this (or something similar), you're not that likely to even know it's possible to get involved. You've got to have a certain level of interest to want to get involved.
I've only played with W10 for a few days and, inevitably I'm finding things I like and things I don't. There's no way to please everybody. But if MS choose to offer choices for some of the more contentious things (like Shawn's tutorials: you can do it this way, or this way, or this way....) I think they would address a fair few issues head-on.
I can't find my way around with my eyes closed just yet. And, neither can most of us. After all, this is a brand new OS. What we do here is help each other. There will come a time when someone asks a question and you'll say, "I can answer that!" When you get there, don't hesitate to answer; the person you help will thank you (even if they don't think to say it) and you'll feel good.
Want to talk about a rank novice? When I first encountered Windows 8 (not 8.1), I couldn't even figure out how to close the dang computer down! Unless one accidentally encountered the charms bar, you wouldn't know it's there.
Yep, TenForums (and eight and seven) are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I had a friend point me to them awhile back. If you have a question, just ask and someone will most likely know the answer.
I'd like to see MS remove the restriction on running Modern Apps if UAC is disabled.
How would you know, without trying it?
And, for the record, there is quite a lot about Win 10 that I dislike.
It's not really a restriction per se... that implies that it's artificial.. something that can just be turned off.
The entire WinRT infrastructure requires UAC to function because its security subsystem is based on protected mode. So that's just not something that will work without MS completely rewriting it, and that would make it less secure.. and since MS wants you to use UAC they have no incentive to do so.
It seems that not only apps are part of this RT model. If you relaunch explorer as administrator (which I just did by mistake) as well as getting this message from modern apps the search and start menu stop working...
Search and Start menu are modern apps, and when you run Explorer with admin privs (not sure how you can do this "accidentally", as it requires a great deal of configuration change to make it happen) then anything you start from explorer also runs with elevated privs, and thus if you start any modern apps (which start and search are) they won't work.