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  1. Joined : Jul 2014
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       10 Feb 2015 #31

    Wynona said: View Post
    caperjack said: View Post
    maybe make it so everyone can set it up the way they want it to look and work, and behave [seems to be what a lot of posters want them to do ] and call it "Windows You " lol
    Hehehehe; Windows Mine.
    "Mine" like in the mine that goes boooooomm ?????
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  2. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       10 Feb 2015 #32

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Every once in a while, fire up the Insider Hub app.

    Insider Hub said:
    By now, you’ve probably read Terry Myerson’s blog entry on Windows 10, where he talks about the concept of “Windows as a Service.” When thinking about Windows Update in this new world of Windows as a Service, this quote is worth focusing on:

    “And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking ‘What version are you on?’ will cease to make sense–which is great news for our Windows developers. With universal Windows apps that work across the entire device family, developers can build one app that targets the broadest range of devices–including the PC, tablet, phone, Xbox, the Internet of Things, and more.”

    As part of this process (and the process of advancing Windows from its PC heritage to something that spans the broadest range of devices, from big screens to small screens to no screens at all), the Windows Update experience is changing. In this post, we want to share more information on our vision for Windows Update, and how that relates to the update experience you see today on the latest Windows 10 Technical Preview build (9926).
    ...more in the Insider Hub announcement section
    Later, the entry talks about Windows, not just Windows Update.

    Bill
    .
    Hi Bill, Will then it would appear that Linux is a service, as must be Mac OS X. So, there must not be An OS out there anymore. . .or am I just being silly. . .
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,765
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       10 Feb 2015 #33

    CountMike said: View Post
    Wynona said: View Post
    caperjack said: View Post
    maybe make it so everyone can set it up the way they want it to look and work, and behave [seems to be what a lot of posters want them to do ] and call it "Windows You " lol
    Hehehehe; Windows Mine.
    "Mine" like in the mine that goes boooooomm ?????
    Good point, Count!
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  4.    10 Feb 2015 #34

    CountMike said: View Post
    "Mine" like in the mine that goes boooooomm ?????
    Yeah, I'd like to blow up mine!
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       10 Feb 2015 #35

    Slartybart said: View Post

    Insider Hub said:
    By now, you’ve probably read Terry Myerson’s blog entry on Windows 10, where he talks about the concept of “Windows as a Service.” When thinking about Windows Update in this new world of Windows as a Service, this quote is worth focusing on:

    “And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking ‘What version are you on?’ will cease to make sense–which is great news for our Windows developers. With universal Windows apps that work across the entire device family, developers can build one app that targets the broadest range of devices–including the PC, tablet, phone, Xbox, the Internet of Things, and more.”

    As part of this process (and the process of advancing Windows from its PC heritage to something that spans the broadest range of devices, from big screens to small screens to no screens at all), the Windows Update experience is changing. In this post, we want to share more information on our vision for Windows Update, and how that relates to the update experience you see today on the latest Windows 10 Technical Preview build (9926).
    ...more in the Insider Hub announcement section
    Later, the entry talks about Windows, not just Windows Update.

    Bill
    .

    I really don't know how that is going work for developers.
    The developers still are going to have to make more than one version of the software. For example you wouldn't want the mobile browser on the desktop or the desktop browser on mobile. Desktop browsers may not even fit on the mobile device. That will also fit other applications as well. The only way that might work which is a little scary. Your app is installed in the cloud, not on the computer or device itself. That would also make the app work for other operating systems if installed in the cloud. There are some problems with that, not everyone has constant internet connection or even has one. Some Internet Service Providers limit bandwidth.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       11 Feb 2015 #36

    Lee said: View Post
    Hi Bill, Will then it would appear that Linux is a service, as must be Mac OS X. So, there must not be An OS out there anymore. . .or am I just being silly. . .
    A lot of the current talk is pie in the sky - all Compaines try to differentiate their products from the competitors. Buzzwords drive marketing - "Ohhhh how about Windows as a service - that sounds new and cool". Don't let the hype fool you - until MS actually puts the OS in the cloud - HA! - it is still an OS. It would still be an OS, but your device would be the equivalent of a diskless workstation. These things have been muttered many times, many ways over the past 40 years - nothing really new - just new words.

    I think what MS is trying to do is to get the ancillary services off the physical machine. Most of that already exists or existed once (eMail, cloud storage. Exchange, Notes, Groove) now all MS has to do is tie it all together across devices. This seems to indicate to me that the apps, not the OS will be cloud based, or at least have hooks into cloud based cross platform / cross device synchronized user interaction.

    Say you're working on a presentation and you have to catch a plane. Instead of saving your work and opening it on a tablet when you're on the plane, you just keep working on the presentation as if you never stopped working on it. It's one smooth transition from your PC at home to your tablet on the plane.

    How MS actually accomplishes this is their task. Needless to say there have been many attempts in the past to make something like this work. The reality, IMO, is it will take a few years to get there, if they can get there this time around

    Bill
    .
    Last edited by Slartybart; 11 Feb 2015 at 15:06.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       11 Feb 2015 #37

    groze said: View Post
    I really don't know how that is going work for developers.
    The developers still are going to have to make more than one version of the software.
    .....
    I don't know what MS is planning - but don't confuse the app and the GUI. The presentation will surely differ for differnt devices, but the underlying app shouldn't have to - Windows provides all of the hooks to the hardware (think Java)
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  8.    11 Feb 2015 #38

    I bet is XP would have been named Windows 2001 a lot of people would have gotten rid of it long before they actually did upgrade.
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  9. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,918
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       11 Feb 2015 #39

    orlbuckeye said: View Post
    I bet is XP would have been named Windows 2001 a lot of people would have gotten rid of it long before they actually did upgrade.
    so, your saying people with a 8 or 12 year old computers running winxp don't realise they are outdated ,just because of its name
    Last edited by caperjack; 12 Feb 2015 at 12:37.
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  10. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       11 Feb 2015 #40

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Lee said: View Post
    Hi Bill, Will then it would appear that Linux is a service, as must be Mac OS X. So, there must not be An OS out there anymore. . .or am I just being silly. . .
    A lot of the current talk is pie in the sky - all Compaines try to differentiate their products from the competitors. Buzzwords drive marketing - "Ohhhh how about Windows as a service - that sounds new and cool". Don't let the hype fool you - until MS actually puts the OS in the cloud - HA! - it is still an OS. It would still be an OS, but your device would be the equivalent of a diskless workstation. These things have been muttered many times, many ways over the past 40 years - nothing really new - just new words.

    I think what MS is trying to do is to get the ancillary services off the physical machine. Most of that already exists or existed once (eMail, cloud storage. Exchange, Notes, Groove) now all MS has to do is tie it all together across devices. This seems to indicate to me that the apps, not the OS will be cloud based, or at least have hooks into cloud based cross platform / cross device synchronized user interaction.

    Say you're working on a presentation and you have to catch a plane. Instead of saving your work and opening it on a tablet when you're on the plane, you just keep working on the presentation as if you never stopped working on it. It's one smooth transition from your PC at home to your tablet on the plane.

    How MS actually accomplishes this is their task. Needless to say there have been many attempts in the past to make something like this work. The reality, IMO, is it will take a few years to get there, if they can get there this time around

    Bill
    .
    Makes more sense then what the other poster said about it being a service. . .BTW you made my head very dizzy (which is not hard these days. . .
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