View Poll Results: Do you want the Charms Bar back?

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  • Yes!

    16 27.59%
  • No.

    42 72.41%
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  1.    05 Feb 2015 #21
    Join Date : Jul 2014
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    Windows 10 Build 14267

    either way is OK with me. Just give me the options to turn it on and off if they do.
    Freedom is the way to go !

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  2.    05 Feb 2015 #22
    Join Date : Mar 2014
    South Carolina, USA
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    "Give me liberty! Or give me death!"
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  3.    05 Feb 2015 #23
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    England
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    Windows IP 17046

    Yes, I voted for it, it's very handy.
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  4.    05 Feb 2015 #24
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,948
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Rather than say I like the Charms bar or I don't like it, I decided to see how much of it is redundant.

    To start, we have five areas; Search, Start, Share, Devices, and Settings.

    What the Charms bar has going for it is that these five items are all in one place. That said, it's invasive because it pops out when you least expect it, are trying to activate something else, and in general, it's just annoying; if you want the silly thing, you have to fish for it.

    Search: Just left click on the Start icon and start typing what you want to find. That's still intact from Windows 8.

    Share: Again, left click on the Start icon and type Share. Up pop several Share actions; just choose which one you want to use.

    Start: Unless you've added a Windows 7 type start app, left clicking the Start Button brings up a hybrid (between Win 7 & 8) menu. Right click the Start Button and you get a whole bunch of different actions you may want to take. This was very much a surprise to me in Windows 8.1 and has been carried forward to Windows 10. For me, this is a vast improvement over past OSes.

    Devices: Once more, left click the Start icon and start typing Devices. Everything connected to or hanging off your computer will show up. As well, you can Add a device from here plus a few more things.

    Settings: One more time; left click the Start icon and start to type settings. What you see is probably not the final UI, but is interesting all the same. Looks to me like everything Settings is there.

    I might add that "auto-complete" is alive and well in Windows 10, as you don't really have to bother finishing most of the words, since auto-complete does it for you, giving choices along the way.

    One more plus is that Search no longer seems to give you a few gazillion hits from the Internet.

    For me, the Charms bar was never needed and in fact is a hindrance. Just my 2 cents worth.
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  5.    05 Feb 2015 #25
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
    Posts : 3,143
    Windows 10 Pro

    The Charms bar was different from the stuff you find in the start menu because the items in the Charms bar was contextual based on the activity you were currently doing.

    For instance, if you opened settings and were in the start page, it gave you settings for the start page. If you opened devices it gave you only the devices you could use with the start page. So no, this was not "redundant".

    I agree that it was annoying that it would pop up when you didn't want it, particularly when on the desktop and trying to close windows or minimize them. That could have been fixed, however.

    The biggest problem with stuff in the start menu is that it more or less depends on having a keyboard...
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  6.    05 Feb 2015 #26
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Land of 10,000 lakes
    Posts : 10,382
    W10 Pro, W10 Home

    For me, the Charms bar was never needed and in fact is a hindrance. Just my 2 cents worth.
    My sentiments exactly! It always seems to pop up when I don't want it, especially when using the scroll bar on the right side of the screen.
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  7.    05 Feb 2015 #27
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    UK
    Posts : 19,193
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Rather than say I like the Charms bar or I don't like it, I decided to see how much of it is redundant.

    To start, we have five areas; Search, Start, Share, Devices, and Settings.

    What the Charms bar has going for it is that these five items are all in one place. That said, it's invasive because it pops out when you least expect it, are trying to activate something else, and in general, it's just annoying; if you want the silly thing, you have to fish for it.

    Search: Just left click on the Start icon and start typing what you want to find. That's still intact from Windows 8.

    Share: Again, left click on the Start icon and type Share. Up pop several Share actions; just choose which one you want to use.

    Start: Unless you've added a Windows 7 type start app, left clicking the Start Button brings up a hybrid (between Win 7 & 8) menu. Right click the Start Button and you get a whole bunch of different actions you may want to take. This was very much a surprise to me in Windows 8.1 and has been carried forward to Windows 10. For me, this is a vast improvement over past OSes.

    Devices: Once more, left click the Start icon and start typing Devices. Everything connected to or hanging off your computer will show up. As well, you can Add a device from here plus a few more things.

    Settings: One more time; left click the Start icon and start to type settings. What you see is probably not the final UI, but is interesting all the same. Looks to me like everything Settings is there.

    I might add that "auto-complete" is alive and well in Windows 10, as you don't really have to bother finishing most of the words, since auto-complete does it for you, giving choices along the way.

    One more plus is that Search no longer seems to give you a few gazillion hits from the Internet.

    For me, the Charms bar was never needed and in fact is a hindrance. Just my 2 cents worth.
    And then you have to remember that Windows 10 is for tablets also

    How easy are the things you mention with a touch screen only?

    Desktop, I agree that its not needed, but nice to have for some, for touch devices it's totally different, it's a very easy/quick way to access things
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  8.    05 Feb 2015 #28
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    Houston, Tx
    Posts : 123
    Win 10

    I was just getting used to the charms
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  9.    05 Feb 2015 #29
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,948
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    And then you have to remember that Windows 10 is for tablets also

    How easy are the things you mention with a touch screen only?

    Desktop, I agree that its not needed, but nice to have for some, for touch devices it's totally different, it's a very easy/quick way to access things
    Ya got me there, Paul, because I'm a keyboard/mouse gal. I don't have Windows on anything more portable than a laptop.
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  10.    05 Feb 2015 #30
    Join Date : Mar 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    And then you have to remember that Windows 10 is for tablets also

    How easy are the things you mention with a touch screen only?

    Desktop, I agree that its not needed, but nice to have for some, for touch devices it's totally different, it's a very easy/quick way to access things
    Ya got me there, Paul, because I'm a keyboard/mouse gal. I don't have Windows on anything more portable than a laptop.
    Even on smaller laptops! I had an old HP Envy x2, which is one of those hybrids (tablet/ lappy), that ran Windows 8.1 and the charms bar was quite convenient. Of course, it was a touch screen so it was easy to get to the charms bar as well.
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