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  1.    02 Feb 2016 #1

    Do all I.T dvelopers wear glasses etc -- why are menus so tiny


    Hi there

    latest windows build 1511 -- can get nice text sizes within applications but menus are TINY -- don't I.T developers ever test this stuff or do they all have eyesight like raptors. !!!

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  2. Posts : 9,010
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       02 Feb 2016 #2

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    latest windows build 1511 -- can get nice text sizes within applications but menus are TINY -- don't I.T developers ever test this stuff or do they all have eyesight like raptors. !!!

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    jimbo
    Here ya go @jimbo45

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  3.    02 Feb 2016 #3

    What browser are you using? Some programs just don't deal well with high dpi.

    Adobe are still quite bad for that.

    I'm a developer and don't wear glasses btw but as I mostly work in [24 x 80] characters so it isn't such an issue
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  4.    02 Feb 2016 #4

    Hi there

    I think it's trying to use a 4K monitor that's the problem -- better solution was to expand the whole kybosh to 150% and use ctrl -- to reduce the size in Edge and IE11.

    Works OK now.

    I don't think W10 has too many 4K monitor drivers out there yet.

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       03 Feb 2016 #5

    The fixes above work on MS software but there are some real offenders when using a high DPI monitor (mine is 2560x1440).

    Chrome is quite bad having tiny text in the address and favourites bars and a tiny back arrow. Some Adobe photo software is also poorly designed.
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  6.    03 Feb 2016 #6

    It is an interesting problem on some newer laptops. The higher resolution screens are great for multimedia, but they do often bring small font size (actual size, not number) when trying to read a web page or something similar on a 13" screen.
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  7.    03 Feb 2016 #7

    Steve C said: View Post
    The fixes above work on MS software but there are some real offenders when using a high DPI monitor (mine is 2560x1440).

    Chrome is quite bad having tiny text in the address and favourites bars and a tiny back arrow. Some Adobe photo software is also poorly designed.

    Hi there

    Adobe Photoshop still has the problem --which is strange really as you'd think Pro Photographers would jump at the chance of using really large high DPI monitors -- we don't all take "Snaps" on mobile phones and call them "Photos".

    I have to use a W7 VM to get Photoshop useable - then I'm using the VMware 3D SGVA video driver on the VM (install VMware tools after installing the VM) which fixes the problem. On a large monitor on a Native W10 the menu texts in photoshop just don't change size whatever settings you use. The Workspace is great but it's no good if you can't use the menus or drop downs. !!!

    My Graphics card and Monitor support up to 3840 X 2160 which renders the standard font size as MICROSCOPIC !!!!!!!.

    To even distinguish the text as individual letters I would need a pair of those glasses you see Surgeons using in Hospital Operating Theatres - those that look like they have a pair of Binoculars bolted on to the Lenses. !!!!

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  8. Posts : 1,831
    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)
       03 Feb 2016 #8

    I'm using Photoshop CC 2015 and the new UI scaling is OK for me on my 2560x1440 monitor. Go to Edit/Preferences/ Interface and set UI Font=Large and UI Scaling=200%.
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  9.    03 Feb 2016 #9

    Steve C said: View Post
    I'm using Photoshop CC 2015 and the new UI scaling is OK for me on my 2560x1440 monitor. Go to Edit/Preferences/ Interface and set UI Font=Large and UI Scaling=200%.
    Hi there

    Doesn't work for me --I already tried that stuff -- what version of Photoshop are you using -- I'm still on the last pre-subsubscription model CS6.

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  10.    03 Feb 2016 #10

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    I have to use a W7 VM to get Photoshop useable - then I'm using the VMware 3D SGVA video driver on the VM which fixes the problem.
    Actually Windows 7 is much worse than Windows 8 (or 10) when it comes to hi-dpi. What you've done in your VM is to reduce the resolution. You could do the same on your normal display if the scaling doesn't work.

    The issue is some dodgy programs still use number of pixels to describe position on screen (7-zip still does....).

    Photoshop was fixed only recently in various versions described here HiDPI and Retina Display support FAQ for Photoshop
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