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  1.    25 Jan 2016 #11
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    I don't use WinZip but 7-zip. But I'm sure there's something lurking somewhere similar to what the "solver" suggests. However, I've still got a free ticket to consult Microsoft here in Belgium. If we can't find something I'll have them sort that one out (they almost had to drag me screaming and kicking to upgrade to Win10 since I was doing fine with Win 7). Several things are not yet sorted out with that upgrade - like Win10 unwilling to do a slide show on that lock screen... But at least I can live with that.

    Thanks for your continuing concern.

    Best

    H
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  2.    25 Jan 2016 #12
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    I'm not at all suggesting the cause of your problem is Winzip in particular... hence my recommendation to use Sumo.

    Winzip is a particular case... generalise.. and it could be some other obsolete or old version program.

    Or it could be sthg else entirely...

    Issues like this certainly need to be brought to MS's attention, but I doubt MS will solve this for you unless you're very lucky. They'll likely go the SFC/DISM/in place repair install/clean install route.
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  3.    25 Jan 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    I'm not at all suggesting the cause of your problem is Winzip in particular... hence my recommendation to use Sumo.


    I'll try that - certainly. Because having to wade thru "Open With" every time is beginning to gall me.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Winzip is a particular case... generalise.. and it could be some other obsolete or old version program.
    Indeed! And thinking about the trouble I've had to make make older programs compatible, nothing will surprise me. But it's not all MS's fault. I got here a HP utility, which HP gave up adapting to Win10 - even if they acknowledge that there's something terribly wrong with that utility vs. Win10. If it interests you have a look at the Hewlett Packard site and the item "Solution Centre"...

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Or it could be sthg else entirely...
    Oh yes, but it still galls me...

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Issues like this certainly need to be brought to MS's attention, but I doubt MS will solve this for you unless you're very lucky. They'll likely go the SFC/DISM/in place repair install/clean install route.
    Quite right. In the end, they always resort at MS to such drastic suggestions which are no solutions. To wit, the reason that I had to upgrade from Win7 to Win10 far sooner than I intended to: Their annoying reminder to upgrade kept popping up. So on their suggestion, and a reg correction they mailed me, I could stop that reminder... to see it replaced by a recurring flag from within updates telling me to upgrade. That would not have been so annoying were it not that now I could no longer update Win7 itself... before I had upgraded to Win10!!! A vicious circle if there was one. They tried and tried to have me get rid of that annoyance, to no avail. So, the only remaining solution was... to upgrade to Win10. Never saw such clunky situation. And I can assure you that my computers are well maintained... Big sigh.

    But, again thanks for your help!

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  4.    25 Jan 2016 #14
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    Perhaps the people I pity are the amateur IT staff for schools and small businesses.. I've encountered one case where a small firm responsible for railway engine maintenance inadvertently upgraded one PC to Win 10.. and some specialised software no longer worked.
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  5.    25 Jan 2016 #15
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    Yep, that's truly a problem. Just now, trying to install some fix to a program the software maker sent me... but it says 4 dll's are missing - QtCore4.dll / QtGui4.dll / QtOpenGl4.dll / QtNetwork4.dll. Going to take that up with those software people, but I just don't understand that since upgrading to Win 10 I keep being confronted with those annoyances. Nothing dramatic, but it all costs time. Oh, how I wish I could still be on Win 7!

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  6.    26 Jan 2016 #16
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    We're still rather early in the product lifecycle for '10. I've not had problems with desktop apps I've installed in general, and '10s been stable for quite some months. But next month I get a new 'custom' laptop, '10 preinstalled..

    Those dlls should be related solely to your application.. they may well appear multiple times on your disk, but not in Windows folders.
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  7.    02 Feb 2016 #17
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    Hello again,

    Well I've tried everything - and I mean everything that is suggested in related forum posts, which is quite a lot - and have tweaked and re-tweaked, but nothing doing: the horrid Windows 10 keeps reverting to its clunky and slow Edge and Photos associations for my most often used graphic files (png... tif... jpg...) and all pdf related documents. So, I am at the end of my tether and repeat my often lament of how I wish I were in Windows 7 again, where the user was not yet treated like a child in tutelage. I guess that by now, and countless lost hours, I'll have to rely on "Open With" in the Right Click context menus (which, by the way keep getting longer and longer - wish I could eliminate some of the items there!)

    Stable Windows 10? Probably - but full of quirks and annoyances all the same. Shall I perhaps allude to some windows not keeping their "views" but reverting constantly to large icons instead of details, and more of the same annoyances (and yes, I have a wonderful utility called ShellFolderFix to keep windows in size and view check, but like so many other programs it does not seem to work so well under Windows 10 either.)

    This upgrade has cost me more time than I care for but I don't even dare to revert back to my trusted Win 7, for fear that some other problems would arise then. A catastrophe, if you ask me.

    Best regards nevertheless,

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  8.    02 Feb 2016 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by haku View Post
    This upgrade has cost me more time than I care for but I don't even dare to revert back to my trusted Win 7, for fear that some other problems would arise then. A catastrophe, if you ask me.

    Best regards nevertheless,

    H
    Not really. Depending on how badly you want to do that.
    If you have Win 7 installation disk or a set of recovery disks, you can revert back to Win 7.
    ( I would prefer not to try the Back to Windows 7 option in Settings > Update & Security > Recovery ....)

    I have had reinstalled my pre-installed Windows 7 Home Premium after I had upgraded to Windows 10.
    Win 7 was back running as before. I eventually returned to Win 10 Home just for the thrill of a new OS.
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  9.    02 Feb 2016 #19
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    You certainly have a choice.. if I may expand it:
    1. Use disk imaging to image what you have now

    2. Clean install Win 10
    3. Now start to keep a simple log of all you do.
    4. When you've got the drivers for your essential hardware working ok, and you've checked sleep, hibernate, Cortana, Start menu all work, install a disk imaging program e.g. Macrium Reflect or Aomei Backupper (free) and image that too.
    5. Create the boot disk for your imaging program, and ensure you can boot from it.
    6. Now install some programs you want to make your defaults, and do so.
    Check those defaults.
    (Note: hyperlinks (http, https at the bottom of the list) require special manual intervention using the traditional control panel).

    7. Update your image.

    8. Continue installing, configuring things, and at key points update your image.

    Your disk image means you can readily revert to a previously working Windows in less than 40 mins typically- hopefully faster.

    Throughout this process, periodically check your associations are ok, Cortana and the Start menu are working.
    Recommended: Classic Shell (start menu) - free.
    - you can still use your Win 10 menu, and Classic Shell also supports launching universal apps.
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  10.    02 Feb 2016 #20
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    As dalchina suggests in item #2 above, do a clean install of Win 10. Windows upgrades have NEVER been a reliable way to move to a new version and it has always been recommended to do a clean install over an upgrade.
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