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  1.    27 Jan 2015 #91
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    I decided not to do it. I am just going to wait on the free upgrade of the complete version of Windows 10. This way, I will not mess anything up. I would love to try it out now though. Oh well!
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  2.    27 Jan 2015 #92
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    Very wise decision
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  3.    27 Jan 2015 #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    It has Acer Recovery Management on it.
    Thanks, Since Edwin quashed my request for sysinfo (that's ok - you've decided to wait) I don't know your exact model, so I had to find a generic page.

    I think you've once again made a wise decision to wait for Win10. It sounds as though you haven't had Win8 that long and spending time learning Win8 will be a good investment.

    I think I read that you ordered Win8 Recovery media from Acer? It's coming on a disk? Is that correct?

    If you've already order the media, then you won't really need to do this.
    Create a Acer Factory Default Backup in Windows 8.1

    If you decide to get a 16GB or greater thumb drive and make your own Recovery media, and are successful (most OEMs only allow you to make one Recovery media), then you might be able to cancel your order from Acer. I suspect a thumb drive will be less costly than media from Acer ... unless they did you a courtesy and sent it to you at no cost. I don't know Acer at all, each OEM has a different policy.

    Take a read of the link above and see if Create a Acer Factory Default Backup in Windows 8.1 is an option in Acer Recovery Management
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  4.    28 Jan 2015 #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    It has Acer Recovery Management on it.
    Thanks, Since Edwin quashed my request for sysinfo (that's ok - you've decided to wait) I don't know your exact model, so I had to find a generic page.

    I think you've once again made a wise decision to wait for Win10. It sounds as though you haven't had Win8 that long and spending time learning Win8 will be a good investment.

    I think I read that you ordered Win8 Recovery media from Acer? It's coming on a disk? Is that correct?

    If you've already order the media, then you won't really need to do this.
    Create a Acer Factory Default Backup in Windows 8.1

    If you decide to get a 16GB or greater thumb drive and make your own Recovery media, and are successful (most OEMs only allow you to make one Recovery media), then you might be able to cancel your order from Acer. I suspect a thumb drive will be less costly than media from Acer ... unless they did you a courtesy and sent it to you at no cost. I don't know Acer at all, each OEM has a different policy.

    Take a read of the link above and see if Create a Acer Factory Default Backup in Windows 8.1 is an option in Acer Recovery Management
    My computer is an Acer AXC-603G-UW12 with Windows 8.1 x64. 1 TB Hard Drive. Also, no I do not have any recovery disks coming from Acer. I have an external hard drive coming with Windows 8.1 on it. It should be here anytime. I think it would be cheaper to make them myself, because Acer may charge me. I don't know.
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  5.    28 Jan 2015 #95
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    Also, Slartybart (Bill). Can I make a recovery media with a DVD-R disk? I only have 1 USB left and didn't want to use it. I have tons of DVD-R disks.
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  6.    28 Jan 2015 #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    My computer is an Acer AXC-603G-UW12 with Windows 8.1 x64. 1 TB Hard Drive. Also, no I do not have any recovery disks coming from Acer. I have an external hard drive coming with Windows 8.1 on it. It should be here anytime. I think it would be cheaper to make them myself, because Acer may charge me. I don't know.
    Having an external drive is a plus, it can be used for storage and backups. I'm not sure what 8.1 will be on it, Recovery or bootable. Bootable would be cool, but I suspect it's recovery.

    Is there a page you can link so I know more about what Acer is sending. I'm surprised that you don't know if Acer is charging you - OEMs usually ask for Credit card or payment before they ship stuff. Tell me how you arranged to get the drive, a phone call, email, chat, or by submitting a form on a web page. Unless one of knows and ells the other, everything is just a guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    Also, Slartybart (Bill). Can I make a recovery media with a DVD-R disk? I only have 1 USB left and didn't want to use it. I have tons of DVD-R disks.
    The problem with creating a DVD set is that it might extend past eh capacity of one disc. When tis happens, you always run the risk of failure. It doesn't matter if it's tape, floppy, diskette, CD, or DVD. Once the set goes beyond 1, the set is at risk. This 'rule' really only applies if you try to put more data on the media than the media can hold and another disc is inserted to continue. In other words , let's say you wanted to put 7 GB on DVD media - DVDs hold less than 5 GB, so you would need two to hold 7 GB. The risk comes into play when the software writing asks for the next disc. That usually goes ok, but it might fail at that point. The worst case is when after a year to two, when you really need the set, disc one reads fine, but disc two is the wrong disc or can't be read. The entire process fails!

    So can you - yes, should you - I don't know how Acer creates the media. If their software is careful it writes less than the capacity of the disc. If it's like most, it just keeps writing and asking for more discs.

    My advice is to NOT use DVDs for such an important project. Remember, OEMs usually only allow you to make once set.

    I think I read that Acer wants a 16GB thumb drive - you have to check that.
    You can get one for between 8 and 12 dollars - you don't need USB 3.0 so that keeps the cost down. Some come with backup software, you don't need that either. All you need is a reliable brand (ask the store) for data. No bells, no whistles.

    This is now officially your project.
    Read the manual, find the links to your machine, start finding answers and providing feedback that will help members help you.

    The machine might have an Acer getting started or there might be Acer specific help files. There are probably links in your favorites fro your machine.

    These will get you started. Acer AXC-603G-UW12
    Models: Aspire AXC-603G-UW13 | Desktops - Tech Specs & Reviews - Acer

    Based on your descriptions , it looks as though you have an Aspire AXC-603-UR17
    See how important the full model number is? This is information you have somewhere, you provided the base model and I had to figure out which one you had. That's not going to fly around here. You have to know enough about your machine or look it up and tell members. You have the machine in front of you, maybe even the box it came in.

    I'll go through this only once - keep notes and don't ask other members to look it up for you.
    When you work on a thread, and issue - fill in your system specs of the machine you're working on.
    Don't make people hunt for information - they'll stop helping you very quickly.

    Acer support home: Service & Support | Acer Official Site

    Overview: Aspire AXC-603-UR17 | Desktops - Tech Specs & Reviews - Acer

    Sorry, I give up, you'll have to look on your PC to find the links to the Acer page for your machine.
    There is probably a local copy (PDF) of the User Manual - look in the Acer Start menu

    the Acer site always beats me - it's hard to navigate and impossible to reference.
    I couldn't locate your model on the support pages and search only took me back to the Overview.

    The closest I guessed was Aspire XC603G and I can't give you a link because Acer doesn't give me an address.


    I'll take a look at the link you provide regarding this disk drive you say you're getting. That might make the entire media creation discussion moot.

    Other than that, I'm going to be helping members who are on Win10, Win8, and Win7 solve issues. I think I've given you a lot to chew on. Learn Win8 and then figure out the more technical stuff. You can learn a lot by reading threads, you can ask questions about anything - the forums are not a school, but you can learn a lot by watching.

    Post the information about the disk drive, I'll look at it and then I'm done - what you wanted to accomplish was postponed until Win10 goes live.

    Bill
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  7.    28 Jan 2015 #97

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    Answering the question: You can download and Install the Technical Preview now. It's a Beta test version.

    Now when Windows 10 comes out Oct. or Nov. 2015 it will be free for Windows 7 and Windows 8 users. Updates on that machine you installed Windows 10 will get free updates
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  8.    28 Jan 2015 #98
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    most if not all the Acers the mom and pop shop sells that I frequent in my hometown ,will not even let you make the recovery to DVD ,USB only and it wants at least a 16gig ,and some other brands want a 32gig usb
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  9.    28 Jan 2015 #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
    Having an external drive is a plus, it can be used for storage and backups. I'm not sure what 8.1 will be on it, Recovery or bootable. Bootable would be cool, but I suspect it's recovery.

    Is there a page you can link so I know more about what Acer is sending. I'm surprised that you don't know if Acer is charging you - OEMs usually ask for Credit card or payment before they ship stuff. Tell me how you arranged to get the drive, a phone call, email, chat, or by submitting a form on a web page. Unless one of knows and ells the other, everything is just a guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Williams View Post
    Also, Slartybart (Bill). Can I make a recovery media with a DVD-R disk? I only have 1 USB left and didn't want to use it. I have tons of DVD-R disks.
    The problem with creating a DVD set is that it might extend past eh capacity of one disc. When tis happens, you always run the risk of failure. It doesn't matter if it's tape, floppy, diskette, CD, or DVD. Once the set goes beyond 1, the set is at risk. This 'rule' really only applies if you try to put more data on the media than the media can hold and another disc is inserted to continue. In other words , let's say you wanted to put 7 GB on DVD media - DVDs hold less than 5 GB, so you would need two to hold 7 GB. The risk comes into play when the software writing asks for the next disc. That usually goes ok, but it might fail at that point. The worst case is when after a year to two, when you really need the set, disc one reads fine, but disc two is the wrong disc or can't be read. The entire process fails!

    So can you - yes, should you - I don't know how Acer creates the media. If their software is careful it writes less than the capacity of the disc. If it's like most, it just keeps writing and asking for more discs.

    My advice is to NOT use DVDs for such an important project. Remember, OEMs usually only allow you to make once set.

    I think I read that Acer wants a 16GB thumb drive - you have to check that.
    You can get one for between 8 and 12 dollars - you don't need USB 3.0 so that keeps the cost down. Some come with backup software, you don't need that either. All you need is a reliable brand (ask the store) for data. No bells, no whistles.

    This is now officially your project.
    Read the manual, find the links to your machine, start finding answers and providing feedback that will help members help you.

    The machine might have an Acer getting started or there might be Acer specific help files. There are probably links in your favorites fro your machine.

    These will get you started. Acer AXC-603G-UW12
    Models: Aspire AXC-603G-UW13 | Desktops - Tech Specs & Reviews - Acer

    Based on your descriptions , it looks as though you have an Aspire AXC-603-UR17
    See how important the full model number is? This is information you have somewhere, you provided the base model and I had to figure out which one you had. That's not going to fly around here. You have to know enough about your machine or look it up and tell members. You have the machine in front of you, maybe even the box it came in.

    I'll go through this only once - keep notes and don't ask other members to look it up for you.
    When you work on a thread, and issue - fill in your system specs of the machine you're working on.
    Don't make people hunt for information - they'll stop helping you very quickly.

    Acer support home: Service & Support | Acer Official Site

    Overview: Aspire AXC-603-UR17 | Desktops - Tech Specs & Reviews - Acer

    Sorry, I give up, you'll have to look on your PC to find the links to the Acer page for your machine.
    There is probably a local copy (PDF) of the User Manual - look in the Acer Start menu

    the Acer site always beats me - it's hard to navigate and impossible to reference.
    I couldn't locate your model on the support pages and search only took me back to the Overview.

    The closest I guessed was Aspire XC603G and I can't give you a link because Acer doesn't give me an address.


    I'll take a look at the link you provide regarding this disk drive you say you're getting. That might make the entire media creation discussion moot.

    Other than that, I'm going to be helping members who are on Win10, Win8, and Win7 solve issues. I think I've given you a lot to chew on. Learn Win8 and then figure out the more technical stuff. You can learn a lot by reading threads, you can ask questions about anything - the forums are not a school, but you can learn a lot by watching.

    Post the information about the disk drive, I'll look at it and then I'm done - what you wanted to accomplish was postponed until Win10 goes live.

    Bill
    .
    I pretty much know my way around Windows 8. It doesn't bother me. I like the Start Screen. I am sorry you couldn't help me. Again, I will wait for the finished version of Windows 10 unless someone can assure me that this will not hurt my computer and they can assist me on what I should do. Thanks, and have a good day.
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  10.    28 Jan 2015 #100
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    @ Jesse Williams :

    I can assist you, no problem, but I can't assure you that your PC won't be harmed.
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