W10 questions I would want answers to before commiting.

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  1. labeeman's Avatar
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       #11

    ThrashZone said:
    I agree the clean install is preferred by me as well I don't care what happens to 8.1 it pained me to reload that mess again on a perfectly good ssd
    Allowing a prior qualified oem key would be nice to activate 10 with but I doubt it will happen way too straight forward of thinking :)
    No keys needed would be nice also.
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  2. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #12

    I like 8.1, I however didn't like 8.0 all that much. What they changed/fixed between the two turned that around.
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  3. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #13

    labeeman said:
    ThrashZone said:
    I agree the clean install is preferred by me as well I don't care what happens to 8.1 it pained me to reload that mess again on a perfectly good ssd
    Allowing a prior qualified oem key would be nice to activate 10 with but I doubt it will happen way too straight forward of thinking :)
    No keys needed would be nice also.
    The TechNet/MSDN ISO's read the OEM keys automatically, no need to even know what they are. The Media Creation Tool media does too. I run 8.1 Pro with my TechNet keys. I just put a PID.txt file on my thumb drive and the key gets entered for me during the install. No prompt to enter one. Really speeds things up. The PID.txt file overrides the OEM key so I can install Pro instead of Core on my laptop.
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  4. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #14

    Too many things to list what I didn't like about 8-8.1
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  5. labeeman's Avatar
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       #15

    ThrashZone said:
    Too many things to list what I didn't like about 8-8.1
    I have not booted 8.x since the preview not going back either.
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  6. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #16

    The only reason I would insert that ssd again is to either update it and upgrade it to 10
    Otherwise I'll put the next new version of 10 on another spare hdd that came out of my laptop to test the builds on
    Thankfully it fits in my dual ssd swap case :)
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  7. labeeman's Avatar
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       #17

    The only reason I would do the same is to upgrade it to W10 or format it.
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  8. Posts : 399
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       #18

    alphanumeric said:
    I like 8.1, I however didn't like 8.0 all that much. What they changed/fixed between the two turned that around.
    Well Alpha...

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  9. Posts : 1,557
    W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
       #19

    alphanumeric said:
    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    The old keys of your previous OS are STILL valid even after an upgrade. (Tested with a VISTA re-install --activation just fine). They would HAVE to be - if they weren't and for whatever reason your upgrade failed you'd be left without a working computer.

    Ms certainly wouldn't want to get into those sorts of problems.

    In any case ALWAYS TAKE BACKUPS - especially before doing major things like upgrading an OS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    OEM installs of Windows 7 and earlier use master Product Codes for each OEM. For example every PC from manufacturer X with Windows 7 Home Premium has the same master key. Microsoft can't block that key. If they did hundreds of thousands of PC's would all suddenly show as pirated. If you use a keyfinder you'll see that the key on the sticker doesn't match the one in use on the PC. Not unless you've done a clean install and used the code on the sticker manually. Those OEM PC's don't activate online either, not from the factory anyway. If you clean install with the code on COA sticker they will though. Windows 8 and OA 3.0 changed all that. now each PC has its own code and they all activate online, even OEM installs.
    That why this update won't install on most pre-activated windows 7 systems, you have to hide it. If it got installed, it might look like your Windows 7 system is non genuine when it really is genuine. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

    Description of the update for Windows Activation Technologies
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  10. Edwin's Avatar
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       #20

    I'm sure we'll have upwards of 6 months to fool around with this one, and for MS to make improvements, if necessary, before we'd have to commit.
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