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  1.    07 Jan 2016 #11
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    What I did originally was download each 10 iso separately for both Home and Pro as well as in the 32bit and 64bit flavors as well as the dual 32/64 iso for each edition back then. Since the Threshold 2 came out however you are now looking a larger download of 5.48gb on disk compared to the 2.8gb for 32bit and about 3.2gb for the 64bit flavor. An 8gb or 16gb flash drive will of course be needed since you likely won't find much of anything between the 4gb and 8gb sizes to start with except for custom made used for promotional purposes by different companies.

    Option Two in the guide there will be the Rufus tool. Here I had originally downloaded the trial for the UltraISO program 6yrs. back when 7 was just getting underway while MS had provided another tool back then. Since Windows isn't running you would need to see the 10 media made up over having mounted the "Windows.iso" as it will download as unless provided a new name like "Windows 10 TH2 Combination.iso" which it is since both Home and Pro, 32bit and 64bit options are now all rolled up together.

    Once you boot live from the media making sure only the destination OS drive is plugged in you will then have the options for Upgrade or Custom where you can decided whether or not to upgrade over the 10240 or go for the fresh 10586 1511 TH2 install which most would prefer to see a clean install take place. The iso download will unfortunately be too big to burn on a blank dvd-r disk limited to about 3.8-4gb there.

    That can make it real awkward for any laptop that will only boot from optical if not the hd seeing the optical set as the first in the boot order and no way into the bios setup to change that. When assuming at first the drive went on a now 3yr. laptop upgraded from 7 to 10 during August that suddenly only sees a black screen while all the leds light up and flash as well as an upgrade for the size of the original OEM drive a new one went in.

    Unfortunately since it still sees a black screen without anything including any error displayed it might turn out to be the display adapter(most likely onboard graphics for that model) if not somehow bumped to the external monitor setting. Unfortunately lacking one with a standard vga adapter to test that idea as to why you only see a black screen with nothing on that. It might simply be the backlight for the display worn out? Laptops don't generally have any cables inside as a rule to worry about replacing.
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  2.    08 Jan 2016 #12
    Join Date : Jan 2016
    Phoenix, Az
    Posts : 5
    Windows 10
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    From the Microsoft Tech Bench,
    I did the Windows 10 ISO Download with the following choices, in BOLD below

    Windows 10
    Windows 10 KN
    Windows 10 N
    Windows 10 Single Language

    English

    32-Bit Download
    64B-Bit Download (since my original Win 7 installation DVD was 64 bit)

    This downloaded a file Win10_1511_English_X64.iso from the Microsoft tech bench. (3.9gb)
    I copied this file to my 32gb thumb drive

    I downloaded rufus.exe to the desktop of a working computer

    I ran rufus and created a bootable USB disk.

    MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI
    NTFS
    4096 bytes
    x quick format
    x Create bootable disk using -> ISO image
    x Create extended label

    Click Start

    It created a startup file on the thumb drive
    placed thumb drive in the non-working computer, tried to boot, and it didn't find it.


    Started over again with the above thinking I did something wrong, and now when I try to create the bootable USB using Rufus, I get
    Error: Access to the drive is denied.

    I formated the USB to NTFS (it was Fat32 before) and retried everything above.... with the same
    Error: Access to the drive is denied.

    Help! Any ideas? am I doing or not doing something stupid? (Be nice now)

    Thanks big time in advance.....


    I put this USB in the non working computer and attempted to boot from the USB


    I verified it was pointed at the USB as the first boot drive.... no luck.

    1) Would it help, or should I try to used the original Windows 7 professional 64 bit installation disk.

    2) Was there an option in creating the windows 10 *.iso disk, to choose between Home or professional versions?
    3) Was the version of windows 10 that got pushed to us Home or professional?





    I ran Rufus, using step 7 (Create bootable USB Flash Drive for installing Winwows 10 using legacy BIOS (without UEFI)
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  3.    08 Jan 2016 #13
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    Phoenix, Az
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    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Here a screenshot of the rufus input, and the logfile
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  4.    08 Jan 2016 #14
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Your screenshot never made the post. As for the Rufus tool I never even tried that one while I have used others in the past. You might want to consider giving the free trial version of UltraISO a go and if you are looking to get the combination iso with both Home and Pro in both 32/64 flavors that would be the larger iso downloaded from the Windows download page not Tech Bench.

    The Media Creation tool is what to use to grab the TH2 update where you only choose English not English International, Windows 10 not K or N unless you were upgrading the N or K edition of a previous version released for a different region of the globe. Don't forget MS has Windows going out to at least 192 countries and likely even more.

    The MC Tool once downloaded is run by a right click and choosing the "run as administrator" option to insure the best results while nothing else is running as far as any large app in the background. Depending on the connection you have the download should only take about 10min. or so with cable internet and a little slower for dsl on average. We all know dial-up is a snail's pace there! Windows 10

    The first thing you come to with the tool will be the language followed the option to either upgrade on the spot or save the 10 download where you choose the save to drive option. The next screen will be either to see the iso written to a flash drive where you will need either an 8gb or 16gb to cover the 5.48gb size of the combination iso which equals the 4 in 1 iso that was previously seen by downloading the four images from the Tech Bench site and then extracting both the 32bit and 64bit into the Pro(recommended) dual flavor 32bit and 64bit folders already written to the flash drive but are emptied out. That was for the 10240 July release there.

    MS decided to roll everything in the Threshold 2 since it was going out to everyone running 10 and would automatically detect what you have on. When booting live however you have to make the manual selection for 32bit or 64bit first and then choose which edition during the first few screens of the fresh install. Since 10 was already activated you would simply choose the 64bit Pro options and call it a day since the fresh copy of 10 should be found activated already upon reaching the desktop for the first time and then once 10 finishes loading go into the Start>Settings>Update & security section to look in Activation to find you are all set or only would need to wait a day if for some reason the activation wasn't immediate without the need for any product key. You simply click on the skip option when that appears during the installation.

    You won't have any need for seeing 7 Pro go on first eliminating that extra step as you would have back before the TH2 came out on November 11th. Here I have a laptop upgraded to 10 that will now either go into a shop to see if the back light went or if it will take a separate graphics card as nothing is seen on screen at all and was thought to be a failed drive but nothing. A new 10 laptop is now being priced. If there's nothing major like a failed chip on the board then the new larger hard drive will actually see a clean install of the 64bit 10 Home there that replaced the 32bit 7 Home Premium. The laptop as bought as a gift for someone now in a care facility back in May 2012 so it has some millage on it. A separate 64 Home 10586 1511 iso to burn to disk will be needed since you can't boot from anything usb since there isn't any option to even get into the bios setup on that one! The optical is already first in the boot order courtesy of HP! mainly for recovery media HP didn't provide but you would have to see made up.

    If your situation however once the flash drive made up either with a Tech Bench download for the separate 64bit flavored Pro iso or downloaded by the MC tool you can try the UltraISO app that so far has been in use now for 6yrs. already first for 7 and later for usb install keys for the 8 Customer Preview. It also works quite well for seeing live Linux sticks made up and you shouldn't have any problem using the trial version for seeing the 10 media made up.
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  5.    08 Jan 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coanbru View Post
    I copied this file to my 32gb thumb drive

    I downloaded rufus.exe to the desktop of a working computer

    I ran rufus and created a bootable USB disk.
    You don't use rufus to create a bootable USB disk with just the ISO file copied to it. You download the ISO file to your hard drive and use RUFUS to create a bootable USB disk from the image contained in ISO file.

    The absolute easiest and most foolproof way to make a Windows 10 install USB thumb drive is option one and let the media creation tool do all the work for you:
    USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

    Option two is how to use RUFUS. When you select "Create a bootable disk using ISO image", the ISO image must be stored somewhere other than on the USB drive you are attempting to make bootable.
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  6.    08 Jan 2016 #16
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    I would do both here of seeing the 10 iso written immediately to either the 8gb or 16gb flash drive as well as downloading to save the iso for later use if not simply to keep onhand. Unfortunately at present you first need to get 10 running which will require seeing the 10 media made up.

    The problem with the Rufus or even when trying the UltraISO program's free trial for the media you need a running OS in order to see that happen. The same for the Media Creation tool there while that won't require any installation on the machine you download 10 to. You can have a temp folder on any Windows machine for initially seeing the 10 media created and later once 10 is up and the extra drives are plugged back in you then download to save the TH2 iso to.

    Now if the OS drive itself hasn't failed you should be able to boot live and put the clean install on and still see the folders outside of the Program Files, Program Files(x86), and users folders intact in what ever other folders you had on the drive besides finding a new Windows.old folder.
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