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  1.    29 Dec 2015 #41
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Spring Valley
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    Windows 10 Pro/Windows 7 Ultimate

    When I initially installed Win 10 it seemed OK... Until the forced updates started piling up. Some of them bricked my PC, I had to do a system restore at least twice. Luckily I created an install disk that can run Sysrestore and I actually had a restore point set.

    Also I was chugging along on Windows 7 with only 2gb of Ram, under 10, it's not enough. Especially when using any Browser, the system will lock up. I'd say, for old systems like mine, stick with Windows 7 or 8. If you have a new system with 4 to 8 cores and more than 4gb of Ram, it should be fine.

    Mainly I use my Main PC to run a Plex Server, a VLC Streamer Server, and to pay my bills. So I only really use it a lot once a month or whenever I update my Plex library. Lately I installed PlexConnect which is a script that runs that allows you to point your Apple TV 3 to the IP of your Plex server, which then allows you to use the "Trailers" app on the ATV to run Plex.

    Windows 10 works very well for services like that, it runs background processes extremely well compared to Windows 7 and 8, I used to run my Plex server on Windows 8 and it never ran well there. So there's that. I also do a lot of manipulating of my Apple and Samsung Devices on this PC, I've jailbroken all my Apple devices and restored and rooted my Galaxy Tab 3 which was Knoxed, Odin allowed me to restore the original PDA file and it ran better on Windows 10 than it ran on 7. When I was setting up after installing, the Wizard asked me if I wanted to shut off SmartScreen, and that has made a big difference. And some of the other tricks in the tutorials section have been swell too, I can install updates whenever I want to and I can even choose to skip certain ones.

    I'm not impressed much with the tile apps, I'd be happy enough to strip all of that out of this OS. A new PC or Tablet with a touch screen might find those handy, but I'm used to doing everything with Mouse and Keyboard (I even use a BT Mouse and KB on my iPad, so it acts more like a laptop).

    Since I have a Video Card that can't hack 60fps I can't do much with that, Video does not play back very well. But my Asus MB was made in 2006, I can't afford a new system. That's why I liked Windows 8 - It ran great on very old hardware, whereas Windows 10 seems to be for the latest stuff.

    The last issue is, I always use 32-bit OSes on my Desktop PCs due to old hardware I use that requires 16-bit drivers, which won't work in the 64-bit versions. When I added my Printer and Scanner, it opted me to install 16-bit support.
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  2.    29 Dec 2015 #42
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post

    The last issue is, I always use 32-bit OSes on my Desktop PCs due to old hardware I use that requires 16-bit drivers, which won't work in the 64-bit versions. When I added my Printer and Scanner, it opted me to install 16-bit support.
    @XweAponX


    Your 32 bit windows 7 or 8.x should be upgraded to windows 10 32 bit not 64 bit. On the 32 bit you will need to enable ntvdm windows 10 for 16 bit drivers to work. Check your system properties, type "system" without quotes in the search box. It should say 32 bit or 64 bit operating system.


    If you did a clean install you download the wrong architecture. Only if you have the windows 64 bit installation and want to switch to 32 bit. A clean install will be required backup any data you want keep. Delete the $Windows.~BT & $Windows.~WS Folders (These folder may or may not be hidden) Download the 64 bit Media creation tool. Choose Advance or other options. Choose x86(32 bit) option. Now create either an iso image or usb install. After all that is done, do a clean install of Windows 10.
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  3.    29 Dec 2015 #43
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    England
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    Windows IP 17040

    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    I'm going to disagree as well, especially since you contradicted yourself in your own post. Experiences do vary, but going by the vast majority, Windows 10 is as stable or more so than any previous Windows version. IE11 works perfectly fine, and so does Chrome.
    You are welcome to disagree with me but I would warn anyone wants to upgrade to Win 10 to be aware of the pitfalls, I think the "vast majority" who don't have any problems must have got high specked systems, BTW, some of the Acer Windows 10 laptops are being sold with FF pre-installed which they never did previously.
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  4.    29 Dec 2015 #44
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,976
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    I have a 6 year-old Athlon QL62 (dual core) laptop that originally came with Vista, and it's run both 32 bit and 64 bit Win 10 with a wide range of programs (and formerly Win 7 and Win 8.1). It has an Nvidia 8200M graphics card. Definitely not high spec!

    But I surely have to think much more about OS issues than I did with Win 8.1.
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  5.    29 Dec 2015 #45
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 68
    Windows 10 Pro

    As I previously posted, the two things I was most disappointed by with Win10 compared to 8.1 were the the fuzzy fonts issue and that the Lenovo Password Manager was no longer supported. Well I found a workaround that works

    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVa...0/td-p/2209223

    All that's left on my 'Win 10 disappointment list' is the fuzzy font thing for which there's also a workaround. So there's not much left to complain about :-)
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  6.    30 Dec 2015 #46
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
    Posts : 3,143
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    A few things windows 10 that bugs me. I can't seem to get a clarification of what passwords does Microsoft record or what keystrokes maybe recorded (That could also happen with windows 7 & 8.1 with certain updates installed).

    I got to thinking about the password issue, the so called key logger, browsing history, voice recording, video recording,text recording, and email history
    There is no "keystroke logger" (at least not in the traditional meaning of the word). What there is, is what's been in windows for quite some time, and that's live spell-checking. live spell-checking sends things you type in IE or Edge and some other apps to MS to verify the spellings of words, so you get the red squiggly under misspelled words.

    Because what you type is sent to MS, that means it's possible to be caught up in standard telemetry logging. The sentences in the EULA are there to cover their rears in case something typed is actually captured.

    It's also possible (and again, this has been the case since, well, almost forever) that what you've typed is sitting in memory, and flushed to disk during an application crash, or BSOD and these crashdumps can be sent to MS for analysis as well. Again, this is nothing new that MS and Windows hasn't been doing for at least a decade, they're just now putting legalese in the license to prevent them from being sued over it.

    In the strictest literal interpretation, can a keystroke be captured and logged? Yes. It is not, however, something that intentionally gathers information and logs it with the intended purpose of retaining and/or utilizing your typed data from everything in the OS, particularly for sensitive reasons.
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  7.    30 Dec 2015 #47
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    Philadelphia
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    I think the "vast majority" who don't have any problems must have got high specked systems,
    I wouldn't say most of them have high end systems at all, to be honest. Very few (percentage-wise) of all computers are high-end. Given the number of installs on record, the vast majority wouldn't be high-end. As an example, my best friend recently upgraded his Pentium D 820 system to Windows 10 by himself. It has 4 GB of memory and an old Nvidia card. His update went through flawlessly, and he has, by his own admission, zero tech skills. He's a CPA.
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  8.    30 Dec 2015 #48
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 29
    Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

    High End???
    Pffffft.....

    Of the 6 systems I have running windows 10, the biggest suprise was the successful install and running on a HP Pav ZE 2000, which came out in 2005

    AMD Sempron processor @ 1.6ghz, 32 bit OS and maxed out @ 2gb ram
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  9.    02 Jan 2016 #49
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Spring Valley
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    Windows 10 Pro/Windows 7 Ultimate

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Your 32 bit windows 7 or 8.x should be upgraded to windows 10 32 bit not 64 bit. On the 32 bit you will need to enable ntvdm windows 10 for 16 bit drivers to work. Check your system properties, type "system" without quotes in the search box. It should say 32 bit or 64 bit operating system.
    Yes, and my Windows 7 installs all became 32 bit versions of 10. I had to choose the 32-bit install package from the Windows 10 update page, there were 32 and 64 bit selections, and I created an ISO image. Since both Home and Pro versions were available on the install disk, I chose "Pro" and it gave me the free update. I did however have Windows 7 Ultimate installed. And I chose to do an In Place update rather than the OTA update, OTA updates always get fouled up, same with Apple Devices, it's always better to update through iTunes than from the device itself. Doing OTA messes up the OS somehow, this is as true with Windows as it has been for iOS.

    However, this machine was a fresh install of Windows 10, I just used the 32 bit installer disk, I did have to obtain a license for it though.

    After the 3rd or so reboot after installing Windows 10, It detected my USB devices, an old HP Scanner, and a very old Brother HD-1230 Laser Printer. The Hardware Wizard asked be to activate 16-bit support for both devices - Which is "NTVDM" under "Legacy Components" In the Programs and Features area of Control Panel. I don't know if that selection is available for 64-bit OSes, but since it has not been available for all 64 bit OSes from Windows XP x64, it probably isn't available for Windows 10 either.
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  10.    02 Jan 2016 #50
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    Spring Valley
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    Windows 10 Pro/Windows 7 Ultimate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    There is no "keystroke logger" (at least not in the traditional meaning of the word).
    There are viruses that send a log of keystrokes to the person who implanted it, but I don't know how they are implemented.
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