Windows 10: Win 10 .WIM ISO copy

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  1.    12 Dec 2015 #11

    Hi Ed
    I have not used Rufus but I think I have deduced from reading in context that it is a way of using a flash drive to create media.
    No apologies ever needed as I have learned so much from all of you. I am 75 and have been quite ill so I am using the PC to keep me going in a positive way. I only began pc-ing a few years ago when things went south physically and this is a great way to feel productive again and to stay involved. My shrinking brain is coming alive. I learn from the good volunteers like yourself in forums. This is a great forum with extremely knowledgeable people. I am not much for social media but really enjoy learning various computer skills. I have folders into which I place information i have gathered that is either difficult or something one might forget.
    I never learned the spreadsheet and at this point really do not want to so I make use of file and folders.
    In the brief time I have been learning so much has developed; UEFI, USB 3, this new DISM measure etc.
    One really has to stay on their toes.
    Thanks once again for all of your help.
    Peter
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  2. Posts : 1,177
    Windows 10 Home
       12 Dec 2015 #12

    EdTittel said: View Post
    Sorry for the mention of MCT in that it is ESD based, but the Rufus approach works with whatever you give it, including wim-based ISO files. So I get a 50% right, not a complete reject, OK? --Ed--
    I would agree with you Ed, for what that's worth. The key difference is that, for most users (including myself), the path of least resistance for successful DISM /source repairs has been (per guidance from Kyhi and others over the last month or so) using the TechBench install.wim as the source rather than the MCT install.esd.
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  3.    13 Dec 2015 #13

    Dear Peter:
    Your story is a good one, and shows that with some effort and elbow grease (mostly from holding your hands over the keyboard typing like mad) you can learn this stuff no matter how young or old you might be. I myself, at 63, am no "spring chicken," either. But it's fair to observe -- as the inestimable Word Man does in his reply -- that the .wim based TechBench stuff is more amenable to easy sourcing for DISM use, and I would definitely agree with that. Let me observe in that context that I've also had good luck capturing/copying the /WinSXS/ folder hierarchy from a known, good, working Win10 install (i.e. one that gets a clean bill of health from sfc /scannow and from DISM /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth) and using that as a source for DISM when all else fails.

    As for Rufus, it's my go-to tool when I have to build a bootable USB flash drive for installation purposes. I keep them around in numbers, one for each version of Windows (right now that means 7, 8, 8.1, and 10) that I have running, either on physical hardware or in a VM. It's a terrific and free tool available at https://rufus.akeo.ie/. If you haven't played with it yet, give it a try.

    Best wishes, and keep up the good work.
    --Ed--
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  4.    13 Dec 2015 #14

    Thanks for the clarification, WM: it's useful to know the context, and I cheerfully confess to having stepped into this without having done all of the necessary homework. Nonetheless, I've walked away learning a thing or two, and will give the materials from TechBench a try. If you check my recent blog posts over at Windows Enterprise Desktop, you'll see I've been messing about with and writing about DISM a lot lately, including venting my frustration at difficulties in getting the /source directive to work as it's supposed to, so it's great to pick up this tidbit from you and the rest of the great TenForums community:
    12/7/15: DISM Does Updates, Too!

    12/4/15: Ouch! SFC and DISM may disagree in Build 10586.17

    11/18/15: Identifying Windows Images/Installers/ISO files

    11/4/15: Another Worthwhile DISM Source “Trick”

    10/19/15: Simple Trick Fixes DISM /source syntax issues

    There's more, but that should be enough to keep you entertained for a while.
    Best wishes,
    --Ed--
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  5. Posts : 1,837
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       13 Dec 2015 #15

    Let me observe in that context that I've also had good luck capturing/copying the /WinSXS/ folder hierarchy from a known, good, working Win10 install (i.e. one that gets a clean bill of health from sfc /scannow and from DISM /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth) and using that as a source for DISM when all else fails.
    That is one of the benefits of keeping an Image (install.wim) up to date, by adding windows update packages..

    One of the ways I maintain an Up To Date Windows Image
    is I create a 32GB Expandable VHD, apply the install.wim
    and only have windows updates added... Nothing added to OS but windows updates..

    If you check my recent blog posts over at Windows Enterprise Desktop, you'll see I've been messing about with and writing about DISM a lot lately, including venting my frustration at difficulties in getting the /source directive to work as it's supposed to
    The frustration comes from a lack of knowledge about how Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM) Works..
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  6.    13 Dec 2015 #16

    Thanks Kyhi:
    Great input and advice. I'm going to give your VM approach a try. Seems like a good way to keep the image current to make sure the source is entirely up-to-date.
    Best wishes,
    --Ed--

    PS: I've already talked to Brink about putting a more comprehensive tutorial on DISM together. Would you be kind enough to give me some feedback on it when I'm ready to ask for some? Thanks again.
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  7. Posts : 2,033
    Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64 Win10Prox64
       13 Dec 2015 #17

    @EdTittel
    As for Rufus, it's my go-to tool when I have to build a bootable USB flash drive for installation purposes. I keep them around in numbers, one for each version of Windows (right now that means 7, 8, 8.1, and 10) that I have running, either on physical hardware or in a VM. It's a terrific and free tool available at https://rufus.akeo.ie/. If you haven't played with it yet, give it a try.
    Actually, if you just unzip the ISO file using tools such as WinRAR,7-Zip, Ultra ISO or Winzip to the root of the USB will also work and faster. No need to use Rufus.

    PS: I've already talked to Brink about putting a more comprehensive tutorial on DISM together
    Well, DISM is a very powerful command which has a lot of switches/Parameters and depending how you want to deploy it. It will be a long tutorial.
    Just to make life easier, use a DISM GUI which will compose the DISM command with correct syntax for you:DISM GUI - Home
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  8.    13 Dec 2015 #18

    topgundcp said: View Post
    Actually, if you just unzip the ISO file using tools such as WinRAR,7-Zip, Ultra ISO or Winzip to the root of the USB will also work and faster. No need to use Rufus.
    Are you saying that simple unzipping of ISO image to a USB thumbdrive will produce a bootable USB thumbdrive???
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  9.    13 Dec 2015 #19

    HI Ed
    Thanks for the note. I have read and read the information over again in this thread. At my level it is very hard to understand a lot of it.
    I have a way of asking when the need arises. Then the need is met and there is always some incidental information I can place in my learning folders. I try to digest small pieces as the world of computers is endless.
    I have read one should not run SFC often and usually if a problem arises. Would you agree with that?
    It seems if you use the PC a lot, and for various things like uploading photos and working with third party programs, you are bound to corrupt files. I feel most people have corrupted files and don't know until something malfunctions.
    Regards,
    Peter
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  10.    17 Dec 2015 #20

    Hello again
    How can I tell if my newly created DVD is .WIM or .ESD? I made 2 DVDs the same way from Tech bench. One says it is .WIM, the other opens as executable and when I click properties it says WIM provider.dll in a long list under 'sources'.

    TY
    Peter
    Last edited by maranna; 17 Dec 2015 at 11:26.
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