Poll: After testing Win10TP are you going to get a copy??

View Poll Results: Getting a copy of Win10??

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  • Yes

    58 65.91%
  • No

    3 3.41%
  • Undecided

    11 12.50%
  • Waiting to see January Build

    16 18.18%
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  1. Posts : 823
    W11 pro 64 beta channel
       #31

    I've got three copy's of 8.1 pro and if the upgrade price is similar to the early 8 then I would do two and keep one 8.1
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  2. Posts : 239
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #32

    Lee said:
    Who would like to place a bet that at least 90% of those who say no will buy a copy and use it as soon as the RTM hits the street..just that it works and looks half way decent.
    I can't see any reason to upgrade to Windows 10 if it doesn't perform better than either 7 or 8; it simply isn't justified to upgrade just to have the latest OS.
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  3. Posts : 803
    10 Pro Preview x64
       #33

    tinmar49 said:
    I've got three copy's of 8.1 pro and if the upgrade price is similar to the early 8 then I would do two and keep one 8.1
    Why? Too expensive to upgrade everything? Or Ten is only 66% better than 8.1? Or you think there is a 1/3 chance both would fail at least leaving you with the old system?
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  4. Posts : 1,811
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 19.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
       #34

    whs said:
    I didn't select any options in the poll.
    Then you are not part of the 15.
    If I had been forced to vote I would have chosen "No".

    It's too early to determine what the final product is going to be like.
    It has gone backwards with the last two "upgrades" that MS has released.

    There is still plenty of time for them to go insane and totally screw it up.

    Jody Thornton said:
    HippsieGypsie said:
    The desktop needs to die off so far as I'm concerned. It should only remain as a portal until all software is ported over to the Modern.
    But that's not Windows (it is now, but it's not suitable for a desktop mutitasking user)
    Agreed.
    Desktops are not tablets, which themselves aren't phones.

    What needs to die off is "the one GUI to rule them all" philosophy.

    Jody Thornton said:
    So, why are you rushing to see the end of a desktop Explorer interface? After all, if we examine Windows 8x's lack of success, it came from the many (albeit wrongly) disenchanted users made to feel that the Explorer shell was being relegated to history? So it shows that as an "anti-desktop" campaigner, you are on an island with only a few other people.
    It seemed obvious to a lot of people that Microsoft's "game plan" was to force everyone to use Metro Apps purchased from the Store.

    If the W8 series had been a runaway success, we wouldn't have had any desktop improvements.
    I suspect they probably would've eliminated it entirely (and then wondered why businesses weren't upgrading).

    Like most stuff in the W8 series, the desktop was annoying to use:
    • The stupid pop-out bars that seemed to be deliberately designed to block the controls of desktop programs
    • The hidden hotspots that you had to find if you wanted to use any controls
    • No obvious way to kill Apps (which would hijack your screen as soon as you tried to run a real program)


    As it is, the closer MS gets to "Metro Day", the worse the desktop is becoming.
    The last two previews (b9860, b9879) have broken some of the desktop improvements that were in b9841, as well as introducing a bunch of horrible bugs (like PUIS HDD issue).

    Jody Thornton said:
    I said "no" as well, and I like Windows 8.1 but only because the Metro crap can be hidden. For those who are proponents of Windows 10, I don't see what you're missing in 8.x that makes 10 TP a "must" upgrade".
    Currently the only annoying Metro stuff in W10 TP are the Live Tiles in the Start Menu and the Metro Apps clogging up the Start Menu program list.
    The handful of Tiles are easy enough to purge, but the list is painful to cleanse (unless you use a script).

    Once MS reinstalls Metro stuff (like the auto-pop-out Charms Bar, "Easter egg" controls, etc.) I suspect we'll see a marked drop in the W10 TP user satisfaction ratings.
    OTOH, maybe the W8 series users will balance out the disgruntled W7 users.

    Don't forget MS is still enamoured with the false idea that controlling a phone is no different to a tablet, which is no different to a desktop.


    Edwin said:
    Lee said:
    Who would like to place a bet that at least 90% of those who say no will buy a copy and use it as soon as the RTM hits the street. . .
    ... Especially if they're gonna let early adopters have it for a song; look at all the users who were kicking themselves for not scooping up Windows 8 for 15.00 or 40.00 bucks when it was available!
    Many users (including myself) who didn't take up that offer, use that as evidence of how bad W8 was.
    "$15 is too much to pay for this thing."

    The only method of protest that Corporations respond to is refusing to buy their products/services.

    It would be interesting to see the "Piracy" stats for the W8 series.
    I'm betting that it is probably the least pirated version of Windows (and not because of the "improved" DRM).
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  5. whs
    Posts : 1,935
    Windows 7
       #35

    You made a lot of good points, but that one is easy

    No obvious way to kill Apps (which would hijack your screen as soon as you tried to run a real program)
    Use WIN+D or ALT+F4
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  6. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #36

    More thoughts from the rabbit/bunny hole:

    1 Right now I'm going to use either Win8.1 or Win10. I'm not going back to Win7. While I liked it now it just has an old feel to it IMO.

    2 I plan on performing the upgrade in Jan to see first off how that goes to determine if that might be a success and confirms that MS is on the right path with their future OS plans.

    3 Then I'll create an ISO to perform a clean install and use the CR as my daily to determine if I can live with it or not. As the updates come down I then can make my final decision on this OS.

    4. I want to see the total cost for Win10. Entry price and update fees if any. But I plan on saving up for this so I don't think the cost will be a big issue for me at least.

    Finnally, I just want to see if the CR is stable for daily use. If it is then I'll pull the trigger on it.

    Thoughts from the rabbit hole,
    Jeff :)
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  7. Posts : 1,811
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 19.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
       #37

    Not Everyone Uses Keyboard Shortcuts


    whs said:
    You made a lot of good points, but that one is easy
    No obvious way to kill Apps (which would hijack your screen as soon as you tried to run a real program)
    Use WIN+D or ALT+F4
    I'd completely forgotten about that shortcut ("Alt + F4") until I read about it on EightForums (a couple of years ago).

    I've met people who have used PCs for >10 years, who don't know about basic "ancient" shortcuts like:
    • "Ctrl + C"
    • "Ctrl + V"
    • "Ctrl + Z"
    • etc.

    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 20 Dec 2014 at 20:50. Reason: Layout, Title
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  8. Posts : 7,724
    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #38

    Good point at the update fees if any
    Read them there terms carefully and if asked for a credit card number be scared :)
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  9. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #39

    HippsieGypsie said:
    I’ll dare say that out of all the members here “multitasking users” are a very small minority. Most probably only use one or two programs at a given time. Most likely a browser is one of them. Snipping tool ia the other. Probably very few use a computer professionally. I’d like to have a head count and after this post I'm sure I'll get one.
    I'll chime in on this. Now I when I do some coding(Java,Python) I usually have at least 3 programs running at the same time.
    1 Browser to find information on the code.
    2 PDF reader to go over book for coding.
    3 Coding tool/tools that I need for the language I'm coding in at that time.

    But when I did do professional programming(Travelers, AT&T, GE) I would multitask like a bunny on speed. You had to, just sitting and waiting for a batch job to run and not doing anything was a waste of time.
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  10. Posts : 5,833
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       #40

    Ok, Jeff. You know what I'm talking about. Real work.

    I'll add that I did this roughly 3 nights a week for 3 to 5 hours after coming home from work in the field and Saturdays and some Sunday afternoons for 20 years. Before that it was performed manually as in paper and pencil/pen. :)
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