1.    05 Dec 2015 #1
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    Changing screen brightness on desktop without the calibration hustle ?


    Hello,

    Is there a way to change (decrease) the desktop screen brightness without going through the "Color calibrate" settings ?

    Am looking for something similar to f.lux but without the orange filter, there is one called Turn off the lights, but it's very expensive ($25).

    Also, isn't this supposed to be live a very basic thing ? i know that on laptop the brightness is controlled "physically" to save energy, i also know that f.lux and the other program i mentioned above are not accessing the real screen colors settings so maybe that's why Microsoft didn't add it but how hard would it be to make a software that just apply a color filter over the entire screen (reducing the darkness will just be a transparent black filter).

    Thank you
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  2.    06 Dec 2015 #2
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    I'm not sure there's a reason bring the concept of "filters" into this. But normally Windows laptops provide you with readily available means to adjust screen brightness. No need to go to "Color calibrate" settings. (Why are we even mentioning "Color calibrate"?)

    Windows desktops don't expose built-in brighness controls, but again most modern video drivers usually provide you with means to adjust brighness (and other settings) through a desktop menu or a notification bar menu. And finally, most modern desktop monitors usually have hardware means for adjusting brightness.

    Why aren't you taking all that into account?
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  3.    06 Dec 2015 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreyT View Post


    Windows desktops don't expose built-in brighness controls, but again most modern video drivers usually provide you with means to adjust brighness (and other settings) through a desktop menu or a notification bar menu. And finally, most modern desktop monitors usually have hardware means for adjusting brightness.

    Why aren't you taking all that into account?
    nVidia control panel settings are not good enough (doesn't have enough values)
    Screen hardware is, well, i want something that i can control with the mouse, i have a Samsung screen with a tactile "buttons" and going through the settings there is really painful.

    Thanks
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  4.    06 Dec 2015 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaslipknot View Post
    nVidia control panel settings are not good enough (doesn't have enough values)
    Screen hardware is, well, i want something that i can control with the mouse, i have a Samsung screen with a tactile "buttons" and going through the settings there is really painful.

    Thanks
    I heard of some magic FREE SW which changes brightness just thinking to, and it switches monitor off just flattering twice eyelashes.
    I am joking the OS is not supposed to manage something that is up to the devices manufacturers; though I cannot get the point, being yours a desktop computer then it is supposed to be in a fixed location and once you reached the right brightness settings via the monitor settings buttons it should be fine.
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  5.    06 Dec 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gas View Post
    though I cannot get the point, being yours a desktop computer then it is supposed to be in a fixed location and once you reached the right brightness settings via the monitor settings buttons it should be fine.
    There is days where i work to late at night with the room light turned off, it would be very helpful (and healthier) for my eyes to look at a darker screen, f.lux used to do the trick perfectly but it really messes up the color which is not ideal for my job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gas View Post
    I heard of some magic FREE SW which changes brightness just thinking to, and it switches monitor off just flattering twice eyelashes.
    Actually i thought i wouldn't be the first one who needed such a tool that's why i presumed that such a FREE SW exists, i'll ask around and see how hard to create one myself.
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  6.    06 Dec 2015 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaslipknot View Post
    nVidia control panel settings are not good enough (doesn't have enough values)
    Um... A typical nVidia control panel allows one to adjust Brightness, Contrast and Gamma and, if desired, do that for each RGB color channel independently. I just can't stop wondering what kind of "brightness control" do you have in mind if that collection of settings "doesn't have enough values"?
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  7.    06 Dec 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreyT View Post
    Um... A typical nVidia control panel allows one to adjust Brightness, Contrast and Gamma and, if desired, do that for each RGB color channel independently. I just can't stop wondering what kind of "brightness control" do you have in mind if that collection of settings "doesn't have enough values"?
    nVidia control panel brightness settings doesn't go low enough, also, ideally i would love to have something like f.lux but with a dark blue or green layer when needed but if i am working on something that require "color perfection" then i'll just "reduce the brightness" (black layer)
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  8.    06 Dec 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaslipknot View Post
    There is days where i work to late at night with the room light turned off, it would be very helpful (and healthier) for my eyes to look at a darker screen, f.lux used to do the trick perfectly but it really messes up the color which is not ideal for my job.


    Actually i thought i wouldn't be the first one who needed such a tool that's why i presumed that such a FREE SW exists, i'll ask around and see how hard to create one myself.
    You are right just looking few minutes at the f.lux site i started seeing other pages blueish;
    well, when i have not to work on photography, I use my semipro monitor at 90 cd/m2 which is just a little less brighter then the standard sRGB settings. and for my eyesight (I am 60 years old) it's good, there are devices (calibrators, i have one) that can change brightness depending of the light intensity, but they are supposed to be used with pro monitors, and in that case you can save as many target as you need for the kind of work you do.
    EDIT
    What you mean saying "Color Perfection" ?
    For that, you need a wide gamut monitor and a calibrator, most of the mainstream monitors do not reach even the 80% of the sRGB color space.
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  9.    06 Dec 2015 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gas View Post
    EDIT
    What you mean saying "Color Perfection" ?
    For that, you need a wide gamut monitor and a calibrator, most of the mainstream monitors do not reach even the 80% of the sRGB color space.
    I am a game developer when my current task is not 100% programming (eg creating particle system or any other special effects) i need to see the colors as they are supposed to look in the final product.

    thanks
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  10.    06 Dec 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaslipknot View Post
    I am a game developer when my current task is not 100% programming (eg creating particle system or any other special effects) i need to see the colors as they are supposed to look in the final product.

    thanks
    Then you need a Pro at least a Semipro monitor covering almost 100% of sRGB color space, and a calibrator; and because monitor brightness and colour degrades you need to calibrate/adjust settings at least every 200 hours, this is the only way to get predictable constant colors, for a professional use.
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