Hope I didn't 'Brick' my PC!

alphanumeric · 05 Dec 2014

I just did a clean install of 8.1 Pro on my desktop PC with install media created with the Media Creation Tool. The Embedded Lockdown Manager is there now. And that was before any Windows updates were done.

Superfly · 05 Dec 2014

Yes, its in the install.wim - even core single language has it.

Rather strange, unless it will be used to disable charms and other desktop specific functionality... have to wait and see.

alphanumeric · 05 Dec 2014

As near as I can tell it doesn't effect anything, its just there if you want to use it. I'm not sure really what its for. I'll have to research it a bit. I launched it briefly, by accident, and then just closed it again. I didn't look at it for much more than a second. I only looked for it after Edwin mentioned it.

adamf · 05 Dec 2014

alphanumeric said:

As near as I can tell it doesn't effect anything, its just there if you want to use it. I'm not sure really what its for. I'll have to research it a bit. I launched it briefly, by accident, and then just closed it again. I didn't look at it for much more than a second. I only looked for it after Edwin mentioned it.

It seems you would need to connect to another device running embedded and then you could use it to disallow ctrl+alt+delete etc on that device. It will not do anything on normal windows install.
Embedded Lockdown Manager (ELM) Technical Reference (Standard 8)

alphanumeric · 05 Dec 2014

adamf said:

alphanumeric said:

As near as I can tell it doesn't effect anything, its just there if you want to use it. I'm not sure really what its for. I'll have to research it a bit. I launched it briefly, by accident, and then just closed it again. I didn't look at it for much more than a second. I only looked for it after Edwin mentioned it.

It seems you would need to connect to another device running embedded and then you could use it to disallow ctrl+alt+delete etc on that device. It will not do anything on normal windows install.
Embedded Lockdown Manager (ELM) Technical Reference (Standard 8)

Makes me wonder why it was added? It's not something the average Windows user is going to need or use?

Fafhrd · 06 Jul 2015

I have a feeling it is an omission - it should have been removed before the ESD file was loaded to the file server.

Ever since using Embedded Standard 7 to create Thin Client versions of Windows 7, I realised that the Windows developers must be using a modular OS building tool, like the IBW and ICE - perhaps just the same ones, but with the normal Windows branding etc. - in order to push through all the new builds of Windows 8, and now, Windows 10.

So it is not unreasonable to find a bit of code or a file left behind, or in this case, an executable intended for a server or development version, that may have not been intended for release - keep watching for it to disappear!

jimbo45 · 06 Jul 2015

Hi there

Always have a BOOTABLE LINUX system on a USB with a Windows VM on it so you can use all Windows recovery tools. It's easy to create any distro or Linux that boots from a USB stick, install VMware player and a Windows VM --perfect recovery tool. The Linuc system will have things like GPARTED for partition adjustments, re-sizing, recovery, MBR fixing / convert to GPT etc.

Also take a system image via Macrium / acronis.

Also for your windows installs create bootable ISO's (Use RUFUS) on USB sticks.

The external Linux _ windows VM system runs very nicely on an external SSD --use a sata ->USB3 connevtor if you have USB3 ports or a standard sata--> usb2 connector, Even the USB2 connevtor will give your Linux and Windows VM good performance.

Cheers
jimbo