Windows 10: Windows 7 should be Windows 11

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  1.    09 Dec 2014 #81

    Hey dude, you asked. I merely gave you my opinion, which I stand by.
    But now, I have to expand on this, and it's all your fault.

    What in the world can they possibly thinking, to believe it is in any way acceptable to try to cram this mulit-user nonsense down our throats. Seriously, they need to get over this perverted notion that they alone get to decide how we use OUR damned computers.

    We need some basic options at the install.

    A) Do you want to decide some basic functions for your own device.

    -or-

    B) Would you rather some pimply faced poindexter from ms central make those decisions for you.

    I know which one I would choose...


    Note: Please don't hang on every word I say, embrace the haha...
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  2.    09 Dec 2014 #82

    Yes, I know which one I would choose. And it's not the one you would choose.

    The reason for multiple users in the base OS is that different users have different privileges. Some have very low privilege levels so that if an attacker compromises them, they cannot do damage to the system. Other users have only specific rights, such as the ability to access just the network services they need. This level of security helps to improve things.

    Going back to a single, global, all powerful user would be like going back to Windows 95, and we all know the security nightmare that was.
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  3.    09 Dec 2014 #83

    Deleted by idiot poster.
    Last edited by Lady Fitzgerald; 09 Dec 2014 at 21:15.
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  4.    09 Dec 2014 #84

    Why should he "get over it"? He's correct. Unix has been multi-user since it's inception in 1969. It's a smart architechural design.
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  5.    09 Dec 2014 #85

    The point is, for me, multi-user capability is one thing, as an option, but for a very large number of people who are never ever gonna have more than one user on their computer, it's more of an annoyance than anything else.

    PC=Personal Computer.
    Get it..??
    (oh, and who gives a toss about unix...??)
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  6.    09 Dec 2014 #86

    Rickkins said: View Post
    The point is, for me, multi-user capability is one thing, as an option, but for a very large number of people who are never ever gonna have more than one user on their computer, it's more of an annoyance than anything else.

    PC=Personal Computer.
    Get it..??
    (oh, and who gives a toss about unix...??)
    Well I used the example of Unix as a means of giving the multi-user concept a high degree of credibility, as Unix represents a high pedigree of OS.

    And yes, I get the whole Personal Computer, single user thingy; but even then, we have other accounts that work as part of the Windows NT architecture. There is a Network Service account, a Local Service account, an Administrator account that should ONLY be used for system tasks on occasion, a Default User account that is used as a template for new accounts. And then your User account for brisk and secure day to day operation.

    To defeat that mechanism upon installation would require a great deal of re-engineering of the OS. The way to do is just create one user, because all the accounts I mentioned above are used to make the system work properly and cohesively.

    If you're going to say, "Yeah but we had the option of single user systems on Win9x", well then you're saying, "I embrace an insecure, volatile method of computing that could potentially come down like a house of cards, or be hacked". To want that simplistic method of computing would be going backwards. Today, accommodating the hosting of multiple users is a "must-have" feature of an OS. It amounts to the same as a modern-day OS support online connectivity or some other basic feature. You may not use such features, but to not include it would constitute an incomplete product.
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  7.    09 Dec 2014 #87

    Lady Fitzgerald said: View Post
    Mystere said: View Post
    Yes, I know which one I would choose. And it's not the one you would choose.

    The reason for multiple users in the base OS is that different users have different privileges. Some have very low privilege levels so that if an attacker compromises them, they cannot do damage to the system. Other users have only specific rights, such as the ability to access just the network services they need. This level of security helps to improve things.

    Going back to a single, global, all powerful user would be like going back to Windows 95, and we all know the security nightmare that was.
    It's not all about you, pal. Build a bridge and get over it!
    Oppsie! I responded to the wrong post. sorry!
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  8.    09 Dec 2014 #88

    Rickkins said: View Post
    Hey dude, you asked. I merely gave you my opinion, which I stand by.
    But now, I have to expand on this, and it's all your fault.

    What in the world can they possibly thinking, to believe it is in any way acceptable to try to cram this mulit-user nonsense down our throats. Seriously, they need to get over this perverted notion that they alone get to decide how we use OUR damned computers.

    We need some basic options at the install.

    A) Do you want to decide some basic functions for your own device.

    -or-

    B) Would you rather some pimply faced poindexter from ms central make those decisions for you.

    I know which one I would choose...


    Note: Please don't hang on every word I say, embrace the haha...
    It's not all about you, pal. Build a bridge and get over it!
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  9.    09 Dec 2014 #89

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    Why should he "get over it"? He's correct. Unix has been multi-user since it's inception in 1969. It's a smart architechural design.
    H shouldn't. I should pay more attention o which post I'm responding to.
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  10.    10 Dec 2014 #90

    Lady Fitzgerald said: View Post
    Oppsie! I responded to the wrong post. sorry!
    Lol. That's a relief. I was actually quite shocked by your remark, and thought my world view had changed
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