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  1.    26 Nov 2014 #71
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    Metro rebranded into Modern but still lipstick on a pig
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  2.    26 Nov 2014 #72

    Hi there

    IMO this is the best type of file manager (Dolphin on Linux system). Windows needs something similar -- clear concise and easy to navigate.

    Why should I even CARE about what volume anything is on -- that's for the OS to handle.
    My DATA can be backed up at will without regard to physical volumes. For the OS a small single storage space should be useable too rather than allocating say 70 GB on a partition on an SSD or equivalent.

    On Windows both Libraries (with difficulty) and Storage spaces (much better) also don't worry about displaying individual volumes -- these days with large directories that can be several GB or even TB (multi media files etc) which can span volumes why are we even BOTHERED any more about displaying individual drives.

    The concept of a PHYSICAL DRIVE is actually outdated now,

    I'd like to see perhaps under MY COMPUTER all my files rather than a list of volumes.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3.    30 Nov 2014 #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Libraries....??? Chuck 'em in the toilette. I don't need ms telling me where to save stuff. Seriously, I am completely capable of deciding where I want to put stuff. Doy...
    As is so often the case when reading these "I don't need it" posts, also in this case your post clearly shows that you have not the faintest idea of what Windows libraries are and how they work, that you simply do not understand them.

    Of course I know that not everyone is capable to understand some even the most basic features of Windows. I will try to put this as simple as possible in order to try to get even you to understand: Windows Libraries do not decide where the files are saved, the user does. Libraries just collect the information and show everything in one place.

    Kari
    So why not just "right click'' the desktop, choose "personalize" and put the User Folder on the Desktop? Now you can open it and see all your User Main Folders/Files. Libraries are redundant and are not going to be in any M$ future operating system.

    BTW: When I say release 7 as 11 I am talking about keeping the core UI of Windows 7 and adding a few new features but nothing like we are seeing in W8/W10.

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  4.    03 Dec 2014 #74
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    The only items I see that are missing in 8.1 and now 10 are window borders and transparent glass,
    Without borders there's no reason to have glass or really nothing to apply the glass too,
    The only place it would apply to is the taskbar so the whole UI deal I just don't see where your referring too :/

    I do miss borders it makes it quite easy to see if a page as overpassed the taskbar or the sides of a monitor,
    Which tends to happen with some programs not acknowledging the taskbars existence,

    Not sure if we can thank html5 for the loss of windows borders or not I'm not all that familiar with it ?
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  5.    04 Dec 2014 #75
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  6.    05 Dec 2014 #76
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    This is quite the long thread, and I'd be lying if I said I read everything. I just figured I'd add my two cents.

    Libraries, like anything else, is what you make of it. For a long time in Windows 7, which I used since the RC first came out, I not only did not use libraries, I hated them. In Win 7 they really pushed libraries in your face, and I could never find any way to disable them. Real pain in the butt. In Windows 10, its easy enough to hide them, and I think its the same way in Windows 8 (just got a tablet with 8.1 and still learning the OS). Point is, I think I got to the point of having an irrational hatred of Libraries. But then I got SkyDrive in late 2012, and moved a lot of stuff to that, but some software I used required keeping some documents in the regular C:\users\[user]\documents location. This is when I finally looked into the library settings and realized I could set which folders appear as part of the library and what the default save location is. Suddenly, Libraries were useful. When I setup the Windows 10 install, I just made it where everything syncd to OneDrive, and libraries seemed useless again, and I hid them. Then, on Black Friday, I got a Windows 8.1 tablet and finally looked into another feature I had dismissed as useless, Homegroup. I wanted to be able to stream my videos directly from my laptop to my tablet. Had to go setup libraries again, and once again, they've proven to be useful. Is everyone going to need them? No. Are they worth bothering with? I'd say its at least worth figuring out how the settings for libraries work. Even if you don't plan on using them, you never know when they might suddenly be incredibly useful.
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  7.    05 Dec 2014 #77
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    "BTW: When I say release 7 as 11 I am talking about keeping the core UI of Windows 7 and adding a few new features but nothing like we are seeing in W8/W10. "

    Well Mouse,

    then stay on win 7, easier and less expensive.

    Jeff
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  8.    09 Dec 2014 #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    A far better option, imho, is to simply create your own folder where you want to save whatever.(not a fan of the c\users\bla bla\whatever. Can't imagine how anyone ever thaught that was in any way useful)
    You're forgetting that Windows is a multi-user operating system. The purpose of the \Users folder is to separate each logged in users files from each other in a way that can be securely locked down so that users can't view each others files.

    Sure, you may be the only person using your computer, but there are multiple users and accounts running on your computer even though you are the only one using it. Several of those accounts have their own users folder.

    So are you seriously saying you "can't imagine" how this is useful?
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  9.    09 Dec 2014 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    A far better option, imho, is to simply create your own folder where you want to save whatever.(not a fan of the c\users\bla bla\whatever. Can't imagine how anyone ever thaught that was in any way useful)
    You're forgetting that Windows is a multi-user operating system. The purpose of the \Users folder is to separate each logged in users files from each other in a way that can be securely locked down so that users can't view each others files.

    Sure, you may be the only person using your computer, but there are multiple users and accounts running on your computer even though you are the only one using it. Several of those accounts have their own users folder.

    So are you seriously saying you "can't imagine" how this is useful?
    On a single user computer without the ability to opt out at installation, absolutely right. Duh...
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  10.    09 Dec 2014 #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    A far better option, imho, is to simply create your own folder where you want to save whatever.(not a fan of the c\users\bla bla\whatever. Can't imagine how anyone ever thaught that was in any way useful)
    You're forgetting that Windows is a multi-user operating system. The purpose of the \Users folder is to separate each logged in users files from each other in a way that can be securely locked down so that users can't view each others files.

    Sure, you may be the only person using your computer, but there are multiple users and accounts running on your computer even though you are the only one using it. Several of those accounts have their own users folder.

    So are you seriously saying you "can't imagine" how this is useful?
    On a single user computer without the ability to opt out at installation, absolutely right. Duh...
    Once again, even though you're the only physical user of the computer, there are still more than one user account on the computer, and they are all running simultaneously. Just run task manager, go to the Details tab, and notce the User Name tab... (you may have to tell it to view processes from all users).

    Windows itself is multi-user, and uses multiple user accounts just to run.
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