Dissapointed but not suprised.

Kari said:

Old post but still worth commenting:

mousegolf said:

Drop the dang tiles Microsoft! We mouse/keyboard users have no use for gaudy tiles on our screens. Use the same Start Menu since XP through 7. Stop adding more bells and whistles.

If I ran the Windows department I would find ways to remove "stuff" and keep Windows a productive OS, not an ostentatious competitor for Mac. We are not Mac people - we are fast mousers who do not need anything more than standard icons and text links.

Speak for yourself, please do not include me and many other Windows enthusiasts in your generalizing "We mouse / keyboard users". Seriously. You do not represent me and my opinion.

I thank Microsoft for the tiles. Apart of mobile devices, I have never had nor will I in foreseen future get a touchscreen. Yet I like the Modern apps with their tiles very much. I welcomed the Start Screen in Windows 8 as incredibly innovative, flexible and fast way to use my Windows with wheel mouse and keyboard, liked the idea even more in 8.1 and now finally in Windows 10 Microsoft has found the way that really speaks to me. I can switch between a full screen Start and a somewhat smaller, use the apps Modern and desktop alike in so customizable and flexible way that it makes me wonder how could I manage my Windows before this.

Kari

There are many people, including me, who would agree with mousegolf. One of the things that made XP and Win 7 so great was people had choices.

One of the things that made XP and Win 7 so great was people had choices.

I think you have more choices in 8.1 and 10 than you ever had. Once setup, you can run them all day long without ever touching start in all it's shapes. And if you really liked the Win7 or XP start (which were both terrible), you can install one of those OEM products.

I run my systems from a toolbar, the shortcuts in the taskbar or the Rocket Dock in lieu of start. But when I need e.g. the Apps (All Programs), I prefer the 8.1 full screen by far.

I have always wondered my some folk just have to include the "We Want" when they are attempting to encompass others who may not want what they want. . .hope that makes sense. . .

Maybe they have other people in the room that want the same thing. :) You are right though, they should say I want. The same goes to those who even though they don't say we, imply that others have to like something just because they do.

Now I think you are debating a red herring. You know how it is - you have a couple of friends that think the same as you (maybe even here on the forum) and immediately it is "we" in lieu of "I". I would not come down too hard on the We-sayers. It's not a big deal.

I hate those over-correct bean counters. Give it a bit of slack.

Lee said:

whs said:

alphanumeric said:

To liking the 8.1 Start Screen and not liking the hybrid 10 Start Menu/Screen.

to your , and I raise you a

Arright, where'd y'all get the Dittos!? I want to see all those dittos and raise four dittos!

whs said:

Now I think you are debating a red herring. You know how it is - you have a couple of friends that think the same as you (maybe even here on the forum) and immediately it is "we" in lieu of "I". I would not come down too hard on the We-sayers. It's not a big deal.

I hate those over-correct bean counters. Give it a bit of slack.

In actuality, saying we isn't all that bad. We want . . . there's gotta be at least one other who wants the same thing; thus, we would be correct. However, in saying "we mouse/keyboard users . . . does imply knowledge that all mouse/keyboard users want what is being purported.

Still, it's a useless debate because we (oops) will never come to a unanimous conclusion. :)