Dissapointed but not suprised.

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  1. MikeHawthorne's Avatar
    Posts : 220
    Windows 10
       #171

    Hi

    I'm pretty happy with Windows 10 so far, except for the bugs but that's to be expected, this isn't consumer preview.
    I don't like the Apps menu either but I just removed it.

    I'm not running anything that modifies how Windows 10 works, other than RocketDock which I've used with every OS I've had for many years.

    And it's not really a mod just an app.

    Other than that I've not felt like I needed to add anything to use Windows 10 just the way it is.

    I have all my software installed in it, and I'm not using any other version of Windows.

    I do have a image to return my computer to Windows 8 but I don't think I'm going to need to use it before Windows 10 goes live next year.

    I have multiple images of Windows 10 at various stages of development, so I I needed to I'd just go back to one of those.

    Mike
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  2. Edwin's Avatar
    Posts : 17,064
    Windows 10
       #172

    MikeHawthorne said:
    ...I do have a image to return my computer to Windows 8 but I don't think I'm going to need to use it before Windows 10 goes live next year.Mike
    Hi Mike:
    If the Windows 10 upgrade is free (fingers crossed), you may want to consider reverting back to your Windows 8 image or you may get stuck buying a key; that's how many got shafted trying to upgrade to Windows 8 from a Windows 8 preview.
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  3. CountMike's Avatar
    Posts : 18,354
    W10+Developer Insider + Linux
       #173

    What I would like to see is some kind of tabbed interface with a mouseover on every tab and sub-tabs. MS installer should ask in which group a program should be installed. A nice, 3D icon in every tab would be nice too. This is my very coarse rendition of this idea.

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  4. Edwin's Avatar
    Posts : 17,064
    Windows 10
       #174

    @ CountMike:
    'Noice'!
    Where'd you get that nifty little menu?
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  5. CountMike's Avatar
    Posts : 18,354
    W10+Developer Insider + Linux
       #175

    Edwin said:
    @ CountMike:
    'Noice'!
    Where'd you get that nifty little menu?
    Just made up a mockup in MS Publisher.
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  6. Layback Bear's Avatar
    Posts : 983
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       #176

    Personally I don't try to do anything to W-10 while testing except loading the programs I use and see if they work.
    I really want to see if W-10 can stand on it's own two feet without a bunch of 3rd party programs that change how W-10 is designed.

    If W-8 proved nothing more it did prove that if the operating system isn't flexible to suite the masses, 3rd party programs will be on the market in a short time to meet those needs.

    I do believe (hope) that Microsoft is trying to make a very flexible W-10. Giving the user options so 3rd party programs will not be needed to do what many of us consider basic things that a operating system should have the capability of doing out of the box.

    I really don't know much about W-8 so I can't give a proper observation of how it works. My first impression was it belonged on the shelves of Toy-R-Us so I went no farther and stayed with W-7.
    I want W-10 to be my new operating system but their are some things that are a must for me. That is another reason I'm testing W-10 and giving Feedback to Microsoft.
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  7.    #177

    Wenda said:
    Yes, that's the bottle-neck with the super-lappy, its 5400rpm C: drive.

    After Xmas, though, I'll be removing one of the two 750gb spinners and replacing with an SSD drive, IF I can get a decent sized one (256gb minimum) at a reasonable price. I'm going to toss another 8gb of RAM into it at the same time, and I should get a few more years out of it before I need to upgrade.


    Wenda.
    There is a great deal on these right now: SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB

    I bought two of them, one for my computer and one for the entertainment center computer. zoom, zoom zoom!

    My mobo is not Sata 6, it's Sata 3. Seq Read: 250 Seq Write: 220
    Put that same SSD on a Sata 6 the speed would nearly double.

    I think you all can agree that 250 mbs read time compared to an HDD's (avg 80) is super fast.
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  8. whs's Avatar
    whs
    Posts : 1,935
    Windows 7
       #178

    For the OS, the read/write times are secondary. It is the random access time of a SSD (normally around 0.1ms) that gives the performance. The OS reads and writes only small 4K records so the fantastic times for very large blocks do not apply. Compare the times of 4K to larger block sizes in this sample.

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  9.    #179

    whs said:
    For the OS, the read/write times are secondary. It is the random access time of a SSD (normally around 0.1ms) that gives the performance.
    Which ultimately results in your sequential read/write speeds.
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  10. whs's Avatar
    whs
    Posts : 1,935
    Windows 7
       #180

    mousegolf said:
    whs said:
    For the OS, the read/write times are secondary. It is the random access time of a SSD (normally around 0.1ms) that gives the performance.
    Which ultimately results in your sequential read/write speeds.
    Nah, not necessarily. Sequential R/W are also pretty fast on HDDs because the arm does not have to be repositioned all the time. It is the random access that makes the SSD fast - 0.1ms versus appr. 15ms on a HDD makes the SSD 150 times faster in that regard. The data transfer speed is actually only about 4 times as fast as a HDD. And a SSHD is in the middle ground.

    I made some performance comparisons writing images which is essentially a sequential operation. There was not that big a difference between SSD/SSHD and HDD (and the HDD was a slow 5400RPM model). If you are interested in the results, look here.
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