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  1. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,390
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       01 Dec 2014 #101

    Horrible


    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    While my system was down I used my daughter’s laptop with 7 on it. Although I spent 4 years with 7 knowing it well, it seemed awkward navigating it.
    Laptops are horrible to use.

    I really hate those scratchpad things.

    I normally "push" stuff to my laptop from my desktop (over the network) rather than try to "pull" stuff from the desktop using the laptop.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       01 Dec 2014 #102

    Although I spent 4 years with 7 knowing it well, it seemed awkward navigating it.
    HG, Now I think you are exaggerating. It only seemed awkward because you had not used it for a while. Same thing happened the other day to me when I fired up my Nexus 7 that I had not used all summer (because I left it in FL). I was really discombobulated.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       01 Dec 2014 #103

    Laptops are horrible to use
    Use a mouse. Then it is no different to a desktop.
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  4. Joined : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 20,761
    Tower: W8.1; Laptop: W10 Pro build 10586; Windows Phone 8
       01 Dec 2014 #104

    @ lehnerus2000

    Agree about the pads, but it was with a USB mouse though. What's really clumsy about them is the limited keyboard with some keyboard combos. How does one do Alt/F4 on one? > Alt/Shift/F4.

    @ whs

    OK, awkward is not the correct word. 7 is backward to me now. It's desktop oriented, not Start Screen oriented which is my new norm. Desktop in 8.1 is a portal only to run desktop apps. It is simply a screen to me now. It is no longer my Start, nor finish for that matter.

    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,541
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       01 Dec 2014 #105

    whs said: View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs,

    Why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.

    Night Hawk,

    refurbished can mean different things.

    Refurbishment (electronics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What is Refurbished? Webopedia
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  6. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,202
    Windows 10 IoT
       01 Dec 2014 #106

    groze said: View Post
    whs said: View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs, why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.
    5400 RPM drives are often the default drive shipped with laptops. They draw less power and run cooler than 7200 RPM drives, and advantage in a laptop. The downside is the lower performance. If you buy a gaming laptop or desktop replacement, it may have a 7200 RPM drive, or maybe even an SSD. SSD's offer the best of both. They run faster cooler and draw less power than a spinner. Not everybody thinks to look for an option to have a 7200 RPM drive. It may not be a selectable option on some laptops.

    I haven't seen too many laptops that are user friendly as far as upgrades go. RAM, hard drive, and maybe the WIFI card are about all you can change. And a lot of laptops don't have easy access panels to get at those components.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       01 Dec 2014 #107

    groze said: View Post
    whs said: View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs,

    Why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.
    Because a) there were no options and b) it does not matter. All my PCs run on SSDs, so I had to change it anyhow.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       01 Dec 2014 #108

    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
    HG, and that's what you call easy.

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  9. Joined : Feb 2014
    Posts : 372
    Windows 10
       01 Dec 2014 #109

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
    No, you can't possibly be serious here, you're yankin' us, right...??? Gotta be...
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  10. Joined : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 20,761
    Tower: W8.1; Laptop: W10 Pro build 10586; Windows Phone 8
       01 Dec 2014 #110

    whs said: View Post
    HG, and that's what you call easy.
    As easy as 3 keystrokes. Takes about 1 second tops.

    Rickkins said: View Post
    No, you can't possibly be serious here, you're yankin' us, right...??? Gotta be...
    No, not at all. When I know I'm finished with the desktop and going over to Modern for awhile I close it out. By participating in CEIP it's my little way of voting for Modern and no desktop.

    One can even perform it with open apps on it. I usually use Modern IE, but for this special occasion I used desktop IE.

    You see two wise guys?

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