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  1.    01 Dec 2014 #101
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    Horrible


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    While my system was down I used my daughter’s laptop with 7 on it. Although I spent 4 years with 7 knowing it well, it seemed awkward navigating it.
    Laptops are horrible to use.

    I really hate those scratchpad things.

    I normally "push" stuff to my laptop from my desktop (over the network) rather than try to "pull" stuff from the desktop using the laptop.
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  2.    01 Dec 2014 #102
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    Although I spent 4 years with 7 knowing it well, it seemed awkward navigating it.
    HG, Now I think you are exaggerating. It only seemed awkward because you had not used it for a while. Same thing happened the other day to me when I fired up my Nexus 7 that I had not used all summer (because I left it in FL). I was really discombobulated.
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  3.    01 Dec 2014 #103
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    Windows 7

    Laptops are horrible to use
    Use a mouse. Then it is no different to a desktop.
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  4.    01 Dec 2014 #104
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    @ lehnerus2000

    Agree about the pads, but it was with a USB mouse though. What's really clumsy about them is the limited keyboard with some keyboard combos. How does one do Alt/F4 on one? > Alt/Shift/F4.

    @ whs

    OK, awkward is not the correct word. 7 is backward to me now. It's desktop oriented, not Start Screen oriented which is my new norm. Desktop in 8.1 is a portal only to run desktop apps. It is simply a screen to me now. It is no longer my Start, nor finish for that matter.

    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
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  5.    01 Dec 2014 #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs,

    Why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.

    Night Hawk,

    refurbished can mean different things.

    Refurbishment (electronics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What is Refurbished? Webopedia
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  6.    01 Dec 2014 #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs, why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.
    5400 RPM drives are often the default drive shipped with laptops. They draw less power and run cooler than 7200 RPM drives, and advantage in a laptop. The downside is the lower performance. If you buy a gaming laptop or desktop replacement, it may have a 7200 RPM drive, or maybe even an SSD. SSD's offer the best of both. They run faster cooler and draw less power than a spinner. Not everybody thinks to look for an option to have a 7200 RPM drive. It may not be a selectable option on some laptops.

    I haven't seen too many laptops that are user friendly as far as upgrades go. RAM, hard drive, and maybe the WIFI card are about all you can change. And a lot of laptops don't have easy access panels to get at those components.
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  7.    01 Dec 2014 #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Is it really the OS that's slow or is it the disk that is slow. I just bought a new HP 17" laptop for the wife. It has good specs - A8 quad CPU. 6GB of RAM, but that 5400 RPM HDD really slows it down. I can't wait for the SSD that I ordered for it to arrive.

    Those buggers make it more and more difficult to switch the disk. There are no more disk bays. You have to remove the whole back panel to get at it.
    Whs,

    Why didn't you get a hard drive with more than 5400 to begin with? I thought laptops were suppose to make it easier to change hardware, another words consumer friendly. Desktops except all-ones are more consumer friendly.
    Because a) there were no options and b) it does not matter. All my PCs run on SSDs, so I had to change it anyhow.
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  8.    01 Dec 2014 #108
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    Windows 7

    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
    HG, and that's what you call easy.

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  9.    01 Dec 2014 #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    When finished with a desktop app > Alt/F4 > Then hold WinKey > Strike period key > Strike down arrow > Release WinKey > Bye-bye > Auto back to Start Screen.
    No, you can't possibly be serious here, you're yankin' us, right...??? Gotta be...
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  10.    01 Dec 2014 #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    HG, and that's what you call easy.
    As easy as 3 keystrokes. Takes about 1 second tops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    No, you can't possibly be serious here, you're yankin' us, right...??? Gotta be...
    No, not at all. When I know I'm finished with the desktop and going over to Modern for awhile I close it out. By participating in CEIP it's my little way of voting for Modern and no desktop.

    One can even perform it with open apps on it. I usually use Modern IE, but for this special occasion I used desktop IE.

    You see two wise guys?

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