Ms PLEASE bring back ISO's again  

alphanumeric said:

Wasn't the no ISO deliberate, this time around, so they could test the upgrade process? That's the gist of what I've been reading anyway. This way anybody that wants the new build pretty well has to do the upgrade. Well the average Joe anyway. As we can see somebody already figured out a way around it, if your doing more than one PC.

The ISOs are all over the web, in the usual places, but I would not risk using these! You might get more than you bargained for...

Tews said:

The ISOs are all over the web, in the usual places, but I would not risk using these! You might get more than you bargained for...

Upgrade one machine to Build 9860, then create your own ISO to be used for clean install: ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File

Tews said:

alphanumeric said:

Wasn't the no ISO deliberate, this time around, so they could test the upgrade process? That's the gist of what I've been reading anyway. This way anybody that wants the new build pretty well has to do the upgrade. Well the average Joe anyway. As we can see somebody already figured out a way around it, if your doing more than one PC.

The ISOs are all over the web, in the usual places, but I would not risk using these! You might get more than you bargained for...

If it's ISO's for this new build they must be home made? It's not even up on MSDN. It wasn't the last time I checked anyway. It's no big deal for me, I can easily go back to 8.1 if it had failed. Or reinstall 10 again. It doesn't take long to install. And for all those that like imaging their system, yeah I know, but I can't be bothered. I have the ESD so I can make an ISO myself if need be.

adamf said:

alphanumeric said:

And for all those that like imaging their system, yeah I know, but I can't be bothered. I have the ESD so I can make an ISO myself if need be.

I upgraded to TP without making a backup and haven't made one since. Come April or when something goes wrong I'll just have to clean install some version or another.

Image backups is not just for the matter of restoring your system. It's for shrinking the time you have to spend if something goes wrong like those upgrade errors that some people are experiencing here. Clean installing can take up to an entire day (incl. reinstalling drivers and all your programs) compared to 30mins maximum with image restoration.

It only takes 3mins to create image backups with free Macrium.

Granted I'm in a VM on a Laptop, but watching the spinning dots gets old. It's got to be 90 minutes since I hit Install Now and I'm not even to a reboot. I already made an iso and a new VM. Unfortunately it didn't pick up my network hardware.

The only indication what's up is looking in Task Manager.

Miles, a vm should not use your NIC on host directly but instead use an emulated virtual NIC which connects to host NIC. Which virtualization program you are using?

Kari said:

Miles, a vm should not use your NIC on host directly but instead use an emulated virtual NIC which connects to host NIC. Which virtualization program you are using?

I'm using VMWare Player. The previous W10 build there was no issue. I still have this 9860 clean install VM to mess with. I tried to update the 9841 build. I got as far as Almost Ready do not turn off your PC. But I ran out of time. The last screen color change was light blue and it stayed there for over 20 minutes. I suspended it. Later today I'll try to resume and let that VM sit. See if it ever goes to the next step.

I tell you though, for people who don't care about "Apps" there is way too much install and config. People better buy preloaded and forget about updates unless they can leave the machine in a corner for 3 hours. Way too many counts up to 100% in the update. It's a total waste when you could just hit a check box "I don't want any Apps."

We'll see what happens. I hope it goes on because the new build seemed more responsive. But with no network I can't do anything with it.