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  1.    17 Oct 2014 #1

    Ms please bring back W8 search !!!


    Hi there

    I have to agree with other posters who say the current W10 search is an absolute DOG - also the fact that I can hardly read the start menu (text size for me too small and I've found no way so far of being able to increase the size of the start menu itself - other items OK though) makes it doubly useless.

    For some W7 users who never used W8 here's what it looks like.

    (Note I'm on a Linux Host so this is shown on a W8.1 VM in Unity mode on a Linux desktop) - but on a Windows desktop the search panel is identical. The dropdown gives you files, settings or everywhere and it works decently. The whole point of a search is that it should be easy to enter your query and the GUI should be clean and uncluttered.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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       17 Oct 2014 #2

    That would be nice to have as an option at least.
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  3. Joined : Jul 2014
    San Jose, California
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    Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64 Win10Prox64
       17 Oct 2014 #3

    Whether it's Windows 7/8 or 10. I gave up using Windows search a long time ago so the first thing I do after installation is to turn off windows search which is a resource hog, disable search index. Instead I use: Everything Search Engine . It is a small program, takes only ~2MB of RAM to run and the icon is always on the taskbar. You'll get an instant result for what you looking for from all drives in your PC, right click on it will take you directly to the file location/copy path/run, double click to run if it is an excutable etc.... In addtion, you can use regex for pattern matching and to narrow the search.

    An example:
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  4.    20 Oct 2014 #4

    Hi there

    The trouble with these third party tools is that you will get into trouble (or *could* get into trouble) if you use something like Ms's Storage spaces where the file system isn't NTFS but ReFs

    Resilient File System (ReFS)

    Now whether Windows handles the file system BEFORE the search application so it *looks like" a standard windows large NTFS directory I don't know - you certainly can't assume that it will.

    I'm hoping to change all my HDD's to ReFs as soon as it's released and is tested properly. It's possible that apart from the servers W10 might also have this as an option for ALL the HDD's instead of just with the Storage Spaces.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 69
    windows 10
       20 Oct 2014 #5

    topgundcp said: View Post
    Whether it's Windows 7/8 or 10. I gave up using Windows search a long time ago so the first thing I do after installation is to turn off windows search which is a resource hog, disable search index. Instead I use: Everything Search Engine . It is a small program, takes only ~2MB of RAM to run and the icon is always on the taskbar. You'll get an instant result for what you looking for from all drives in your PC, right click on it will take you directly to the file location/copy path/run, double click to run if it is an excutable etc.... In addtion, you can use regex for pattern matching and to narrow the search.

    An example:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	a.png 
Views:	41 
Size:	69.4 KB 
ID:	7104
    How much ram does Win 10 search use?
    Win 10 search is same as win 7 as far as looks
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  6. Joined : Jul 2014
    San Jose, California
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       20 Oct 2014 #6

    How much ram does Win 10 search use?
    Win 10 search is same as win 7 as far as looks
    It's not the matter of how much RAM Windows Search uses but the way it works, it is system resource hog. When you first install Windows, Windows Search starts building its Database Index file (Windows.edb) and over time, this index file keeps growing. There are cases that it grows to many GB's (50~100GB's) and Windows Search will have hard time re-indexing, making your system slow and sluggish.

    More about: The Windows.edb file grows very large in Windows 8 or Windows Server 2012
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       20 Oct 2014 #7

    Have you tried the power user search (right click Start menu button)?

    or the taskbar search?

    All searches on my Hyper-V guest seem to be fast enough, although I haven't checked the results (what is returned) too closely.
    I also haven't tried the search tags or other query syntax. I think I'll look in Control Panel to see what search options are available on folders. Or... poke around on the modern side.

    Side note: I dug around in Windows 7 and found the Windows Metrics registry entries, but nothing I tried seemed to help the start menu text size. Must be somewhere in the new DPI control settings. If I discover anything, I'll let you know.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
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    Win 10
       20 Oct 2014 #8

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    also the fact that I can hardly read the start menu (text size for me too small and I've found no way so far of being able to increase the size of the start menu itself - other items OK though) makes it doubly useless.
    Hi,

    Go to PC settings - PC and Devices - Display - More options - Change text size to larger.
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  9.    20 Oct 2014 #9

    Hi,

    I can't really comment on Windows TP search because I haven't tried it.
    But I can report that Agent Ransack works as well in Windows TP as it has in every other OS I've used it in.

    I've used it for years, it's much better then the built in Windows search and it adds itself to the right click drop down list in File Explorer so it's just as easy to access and any built in search engine.

    It has many handy features and the search term is persistent so you can type in what you are looking for and then quickly search a series of locations just by clicking on them and clicking search.

    Best of all it's free, and has never crashed or caused me any problems.

    Agent Ransack - Download

    Mike
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 69
    windows 10
       20 Oct 2014 #10

    topgundcp said: View Post
    It's not the matter of how much RAM Windows Search uses but the way it works, it is system resource hog. When you first install Windows, Windows Search starts building its Database Index file (Windows.edb) and over time, this index file keeps growing. There are cases that it grows to many GB's (50~100GB's) and Windows Search will have hard time re-indexing, making your system slow and sluggish.

    More about: The Windows.edb file grows very large in Windows 8 or Windows Server 2012
    Ok MS identified it as a problem, so if developing a new version would this not be a problem fixed? It seems major since 100gb is a lot of wasted space on any system
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