Argue? Perhaps you must think that someone that doesn't agree with you are arguing? Simply stating my point of view as others are and just as those that came on 8F to slam the OS simply because they didn't understand it and/or like the concept. And yes, unfortunately I'm starting to see the same thing happening here.
Perhaps you didn't run 8.x long enough to know that it came with a desktop, which IMO is nothing but a UI that needs to die off for a great number of reasons. Reasons, obviously, very few understand. 8.x was written and presented by what I think is the greatest software company on the planet. Now all of a sudden they and those that understand the concept are ostracized for doing such. Ironically 8.x was produced by the same team as 7. I think some tend to forget that.
If anything they made the mistake of presenting it too quickly creating what I'll call a shock effect. "That's not the way we've always performed it in the past!" Just because it was performed that way doesn't mean that there's not a better way. Just like MSDos to Windows 95 UI then onto succeeding OSs. All changed to find a better way. Now we've reached a major crossroads in computing and all of a sudden the ground is rumbling. Markets change and OSs need to change along with it also.
Did you ever stop to think that not only did Gates and the crew write great software, but also grew to know how to run what has become one of the world's largest and successful corporations? They weren't wimps in doing so. They all worked very hard to get to where they're at today. I should think that they know how to present the next productive OS. Yes, I said productive OS such as 8.x are, especially 8.1.
My hat off to you and others in your accomplishment of 7F. Great OS and forum. No doubt whatsoever. Unfortunately I and others didn't have time for it for we were busy with other things in life or we simply weren't working IT. I'm not a geek in the truest sense of the word, but I'm proud to be a part of the 8F community and help there the best I can. You have no right to judge us for standing our ground about 8.x for the most part. Simply not our problem you and others rejected it.
Personally I was in the construction industry selling and performing my talents there. Though not as savvy in tech as you and others are, I did, however, sit countless hours for 25 years behind a PC with multiple programs open performing estimates within Office suite, mostly Excel spreadsheets, Word for contracts & proposals, picture slide shows using PowerPoint, and Access for databases. Contracting bidding guideline programs, IE for internet access to accounts concerning building materials & research, Notepad, Calculator, a PDF reader for blueprints, email client, contacts, accounting program (although that was eventually handed off to an accountant), research on weather conditions & forecasts, a phone headset, and a 4-in-one just to name a few. I think this pretty much qualifies me as a power user. Also had cell phones since the bags, in which the construction industry greatly helped to popularize and boost sales.
Bottom line is that no IT pro is going to tell me what works best for me or others so far as productivity within an OS is concerned. IT pros should stick to the day to day technical issues, not judge on whether an OS is productive or not in an office environment. Though semi retired now, I wish I had the 8.x system when in my prime. Furthermore, I have the greatest software company backing me on that. I and others aren't losing out whatsoever.
MS set up a plan to develop 10. They presented a Tech Preview template, a feedback app, and are collecting user data to do so. I, for one, am expecting the "next OS" to be even more productive whether or not I agree with all the features included.
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