Windows 10: The Windows 10 Nightmare and why I reinstalled Windows 7 ... Solved

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  1.    29 Sep 2015 #31

    LexG said: View Post
    Hi everybody,

    So, to make am even longer story short : I had to use my recovery partition on my HDD in order to reinstall windows 7 and get out of the windows 10 nightmare that I was in. Nothing seemed to work right with the upgrade and nothing seemed to work right after a clean install. Maybe reading this post will help others decide if they really want to upgrade to windows 10 just yet, or give it some time, because as it seems to me : windows 10 is still a very unstable system with many issues.
    Hi.. and welcome to the forums..
    Keep in mind that not as many people are having the issues that you encountered with Win10. And I'm going to take a stab at this and guess that you're encountering a driver issue and that's causing the problem with the brightness.

    But in the end if you're having more success with WIn7 that's good.
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  2.    29 Sep 2015 #32

    LexG said: View Post
    I found the reactions of some people here very strange. Making fun of other people's troubles (be it over an OS or anything else for that matter) is just silly ... Then again, I expected it ...
    If you expected that kind of response then why did you start this thread? Honestly you shouldn't take any of those posts seriously and you should have came here sooner with your issues. You would have gotten more help that way.,
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  3.    29 Sep 2015 #33

    hTconeM9user said: View Post
    No we are all here waiting to help you with your problem you have with your Windows 10, because we on this forum care for our members and if you are having trouble between us we can more than likely sort the problems out
    I merely reacted to someone saying that I myself was the problem ... that's all ... very normal ...
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  4. Posts : 2,554
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       29 Sep 2015 #34

    LexG said: View Post
    Hi everybody,

    This post will list all the troubles that I have encountered while upgrading from windows 7 Pro. to Windows 10 this pas 2 weeks.

    I am using an Asus N71Jq laptop :

    - Intel Core I7 Q720 1.6 Ghz / 4 Gigs of RAM
    - AMD mobility Radeon 5730 graphics card
    - Atheros AR 9285 wireless adapter

    ---------------------------------- LOL -------------------

    Here goes nothing ... I am using a windows 7 machine now, so it'll be okay I had been installing SP1 when the computer restarted and cut my first posting attempt off ...

    After the upgrade from 7 to windows 10
    --------------------------------------------
    Problems : Black screen on startup. After hooking up a TV through HDMI, I got a screen. Thinking that it was a driver issue, I tried all versions for my gfx card and none solved the problem. After 3 days of irritation I decided to play with the brightness levels. What happened ? Turned out that below 75% of brightness the screen goes black and above that point, I have max. brightness. I solved it by setting the brightness through the catalyst control center. No a great solution, but it worked.

    Before long I was experiencing other problems though. The computer gave me random MACHINE EXCEPTION ERRORS or just froze on me for no reason. Eventually I was not able to boot up anymore at all. This is when I decided to do my first clean install.

    Clean install number 1
    -------------------------
    After downloading the ISO files and burning them to a disc I installed windows 10 clean - but this time on a SSD (I was so fed up with reboots, that I needed some speed). To my surprise (or not really), the same problems persisted. Bad brightness control, random freezes and random machine exception errors. But that was not all. I also had an unstable wireless connection now. The connection is at random 'limited' and at random gave me a server not found error. No version for the atheros adapter worked to solve it, nor did any fix that I found on the web. I tried it through different networks and different routers. Same problem. The weird thing is that after the upgrade, the connection was stable. After the clean install, it was crappy.

    A few random freezes later (over the course of a couple of days) rendered the system so unstable that I was considering to go back to windows 7. But Silly me didn't, instead I decided to give it 'one last try' and do another clean install (because you never know .. lol ..)

    Clean install number 2
    -------------------------
    Same shit (but faster reboots). Same connectivity problems, same brightness problem etc. But now also an activation problem! I noticed that windows 10 was not activated, while after the upgrade it automatically activated itself. So I called microsoft and they gave me an activation key. B.t.w. I had to call them 4 times, because their phone lines suck.
    The activation key worked though.

    Problem was, that the system was still unstable. I didn't have a good internet connection and windows 10 was starting to give me machine exception errors again. Eventually I decided that I was going to roll back to windows 7 and leave it with that. So I popped in my other HD (not the SSD) and booted up the 'upgraded' version of windows 10 and went into the settings.

    Rolling back ?
    ----------------------------
    So I go into the recovery settings and there is the rollback option. I click it and windows 10 tells me that 'the files that are need to go back to windows 7' are not there. It tells me that I 'cannot go back to my previous windows version'. Great !
    So I call microsoft and they tell me that the I probably removed the windows.old directory. This is not the case though, because the windows.old directory is right there on the HDD - and this drive has been out of the computer for about a week !

    The reason I did a clean install on the SSD was because the first MS employee told me that : 'windows 10 is hooked to your motherboard and chipset.' This would mean that I can switch hard drives as I like. Now that I am trying to roll back and it's not working, a second MS employee tells me : 'windows is hooked to all your hardware, also the HDDs'. But even so, it should not matter, because the hardware configuration is exactly the same as it was after I upgraded the first time.

    So, to make am even longer story short : I had to use my recovery partition on my HDD in order to reinstall windows 7 and get out of the windows 10 nightmare that I was in. Nothing seemed to work right with the upgrade and nothing seemed to work right after a clean install. Maybe reading this post will help others decide if they really want to upgrade to windows 10 just yet, or give it some time, because as it seems to me : windows 10 is still a very unstable system with many issues.
    Sorry about your problems but for all of us on here windows 10 is running as it should and even my old windows files have gone and I have helped lots of my friends install on laptops and computers with monitors as well the first thing I got them to do was update their computer/laptops with all the latest updates then once installed all the new drivers needed got them from Auslogic and genuine not Microsoft ones and they have been running now for 2 weeks and all report that their systems are stable so to them Windows 10 not a Nightmare but a god send.
    One even come from Vista then 7 then 10.
    If you need any help when you decide to reinstall windows 10 again we will try and help you but find out if your graphic cards need updating
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       29 Sep 2015 #35

    Here goes nothing ... I am using a windows 7 machine now, so it'll be okay I had been installing SP1 when the computer restarted and cut my first posting attempt off ...
    That's OK Lex we had fun waiting, I thought maybe the internet connection got cut off(it can happen)

    After the upgrade from 7 to windows 10
    --------------------------------------------
    Problems : Black screen on startup. After hooking up a TV through HDMI, I got a screen. Thinking that it was a driver issue, I tried all versions for my gfx card and none solved the problem. After 3 days of irritation I decided to play with the brightness levels. What happened ? Turned out that below 75% of brightness the screen goes black and above that point, I have max. brightness. I solved it by setting the brightness through the catalyst control center. No a great solution, but it worked.

    Before long I was experiencing other problems though. The computer gave me random MACHINE EXCEPTION ERRORS or just froze on me for no reason. Eventually I was not able to boot up anymore at all. This is when I decided to do my first clean install.
    The errors could have been caused by Win7 drivers, still being used, shouldn't have been, I never experienced this in the preview stage or after RTM
    I use HDMI but leave my graphics card set to it's default, and set color, brightness, and contrast...etc. through my HDTV's setting(my tv is calibrated)

    Clean install number 1
    -------------------------
    After downloading the ISO files and burning them to a disc I installed windows 10 clean - but this time on a SSD (I was so fed up with reboots, that I needed some speed). To my surprise (or not really), the same problems persisted. Bad brightness control, random freezes and random machine exception errors. But that was not all. I also had an unstable wireless connection now. The connection is at random 'limited' and at random gave me a server not found error. No version for the atheros adapter worked to solve it, nor did any fix that I found on the web. I tried it through different networks and different routers. Same problem. The weird thing is that after the upgrade, the connection was stable. After the clean install, it was crappy.

    A few random freezes later (over the course of a couple of days) rendered the system so unstable that I was considering to go back to windows 7. But Silly me didn't, instead I decided to give it 'one last try' and do another clean install (because you never know .. lol ..)

    Clean install number 2
    -------------------------
    Same shit (but faster reboots). Same connectivity problems, same brightness problem etc. But now also an activation problem! I noticed that windows 10 was not activated, while after the upgrade it automatically activated itself. So I called microsoft and they gave me an activation key. B.t.w. I had to call them 4 times, because their phone lines suck.
    The activation key worked though.

    Problem was, that the system was still unstable. I didn't have a good internet connection and windows 10 was starting to give me machine exception errors again. Eventually I decided that I was going to roll back to windows 7 and leave it with that. So I popped in my other HD (not the SSD) and booted up the 'upgraded' version of windows 10 and went into the settings.
    Question: Did you get your drivers for Win10(or Win8 if none for 10) from your OEM site for your PC's specific model? You would need the graphics and any Ethernet/WiFi ones at the least.


    Rolling back ?
    ----------------------------
    So I go into the recovery settings and there is the rollback option. I click it and windows 10 tells me that 'the files that are need to go back to windows 7' are not there. It tells me that I 'cannot go back to my previous windows version'. Great !
    So I call microsoft and they tell me that the I probably removed the windows.old directory. This is not the case though, because the windows.old directory is right there on the HDD - and this drive has been out of the computer for about a week !
    Did you run the Disk Cleanup tool after upgrading(on the HDD)?
    Calling Microsoft for anything except for activation, is futile.
    Their 1st & 2nd tier call center people have no idea of the OS.

    The reason I did a clean install on the SSD was because the first MS employee told me that : 'windows 10 is hooked to your motherboard and chipset.' This would mean that I can switch hard drives as I like. Now that I am trying to roll back and it's not working, a second MS employee tells me : 'windows is hooked to all your hardware, also the HDDs'. But even so, it should not matter, because the hardware configuration is exactly the same as it was after I upgraded the first time.
    Like I said they have no idea, this is not true.

    So, to make am even longer story short : I had to use my recovery partition on my HDD in order to reinstall windows 7 and get out of the windows 10 nightmare that I was in. Nothing seemed to work right with the upgrade and nothing seemed to work right after a clean install. Maybe reading this post will help others decide if they really want to upgrade to windows 10 just yet, or give it some time, because as it seems to me : windows 10 is still a very unstable system with many issues.
    How to Get and Use the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool

    Edit for a clean install without the bloatware
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  6.    29 Sep 2015 #36

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    If you expected that kind of response then why did you start this thread? Honestly you shouldn't take any of those posts seriously and you should have came here sooner with your issues. You would have gotten more help that way.,
    You can find my posts in the other sections of the forums. How.come you think I didn't come here earlier ?
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  7.    29 Sep 2015 #37

    LexG said: View Post
    You can find my posts in the other sections of the forums. How.come you think I didn't come here earlier ?
    I just asked and I usually don't go through a members previous posts.. I just ask that question.

    And I still think you had driver issues..
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       29 Sep 2015 #38

    Lex I don't think your Asus N71Jq is compatible with Windows 10, sorry. I went to ASUS to see about drivers and got this on the OS dropdown:
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    There isn't even any drivers for Windows 8(my ASUS X54C was a Windows 7 sp1 laptop, but I could get Windows ( drivers for it)
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  9.    29 Sep 2015 #39

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I just asked and I usually don't go through a members previous posts.. I just ask that question.

    And I still think you had driver issues..
    You assumed that I wasn't here earlier, because you thought I was some windows 10 hater, who just wanted to put a flame post on here - right ? Sorry, but you're wrong ...

    Yes it could be that there are driver issues, but I had tried all versions and the issues were so random and strange that it just didn't work out ... My goal, by posting my experience, was to give others insight.

    Also, I am running windows 7 again right now, so I am not looking to resolve any more issues with windows 10 ... If you had read the final part of my post, that would be clear too ...

    As far as my reaction goes about all the 'silly' replies to my post ... yes, I expected that to happen when I noticed that I accidentally hit submit (probably with my had on the pad, because I reached for something - it can happen) and right after that the computer rebooted. Why did I expect that ? Well ,because it's human nature to be that way. Did it bother me ? Not really, but that doesn't hold me from saying what I want about it ...
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  10.    29 Sep 2015 #40

    LexG said: View Post
    You assumed that I wasn't here earlier, because you thought I was some windows 10 hater, who just wanted to put a flame post on here - right ? Sorry, but you're wrong ...

    Yes it could be that there are driver issues, but I had tried all versions and the issues were so random and strange that it just didn't work out ... My goal, by posting my experience, was to give others insight.

    Also, I am running windows 7 again right now, so I am not looking to resolve any more issues with windows 10 ... If you had read the final part of my post, that would be clear too ...

    As far as my reaction goes about all the 'silly' replies to my post ... yes, I expected that to happen when I noticed that I accidentally hit submit (probably with my had on the pad, because I reached for something - it can happen) and right after that the computer rebooted. Why did I expect that ? Well ,because it's human nature to be that way. Did it bother me ? Not really, but that doesn't hold me from saying what I want about it ...
    Ok.. well then. Enjoy your stay.
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