I hate W10

paulsalter said:

Is that for SMS messages or Apples Messenger service that takes over texts?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but I'll answer it this way -- Apple has an app called MESSAGES that lives on your computer. It is essentially just like the one on the iPhone -- and they are in sync. So suppose you're at your computer and someone texts you from your phone SMS. There's no need to pick up the iPhone and reply. You can use your Mac to do so.

Even cooler (but kinda weird) is suppose you're upstairs in your house but you left your iPhone downstairs. Or in the car. Or at work. Your Mac will see the incoming call and give you a chance to answer it. So any Mac you have is like an 'extension' of your iPhone.

paulsalter said:

Thanks
That's what I thought you meant

I prefer to receive/send standard SMS messages, not have them re route through Apple servers (or anyone elses)

Last time I checked it's impossible to send or receive SMS without someone elses servers. Mine go thru AT&T. Who do yours go thru?

The Pool Man said:

Last time I checked it's impossible to send or receive SMS without someone elses servers. Mine go thru AT&T. Who do yours go thru?

Yes, but they also must go through Apple's servers in order for Apple to forward them to your computer. That was his argument, that you were introducing yet another privacy busting middleman.

For that matter, I can do the same thing with Google Voice. I can send and receive SMS's on my pc or phone.

BoneZ said:

Can't wait for native gaming to fully and completely come to Linux. Then there will never be a need for Windows ever again.

Hold that thought: I like it! But unfortunately reality is different for most of us. Many of us don't really want to spend that many hours integrating new printers, scanners, disks, etc. or updating & configuring our systems. I don't think any of the UNIX based packages for PC's compare if the goal is to really get work done with a good choice of s/w. They all require just a bit more time, energy, and knowledge for system management. Fine if someone is paying me to do the work; not fine for my own needs. My time is for production, not tweaking my system.

BUT Windows 10 is driving me up the wall three weeks after installing: it is slow, unpredictable, and difficult to navigate after years of Windows 7. I skipped 8, and I don't have a smart phone yet, so tiles & apps, and hiding menus is just not OK for me!

I do hate it, but I suppose I will eventually get over that. Definitely bloatware, IMHO

sandra said:

Hold that thought: I like it! But unfortunately reality is different for most of us. Many of us don't really want to spend that many hours integrating new printers, scanners, disks, etc. or updating & configuring our systems. I don't think any of the UNIX based packages for PC's compare if the goal is to really get work done with a good choice of s/w. They all require just a bit more time, energy, and knowledge for system management. Fine if someone is paying me to do the work; not fine for my own needs. My time is for production, not tweaking my system.

BUT Windows 10 is driving me up the wall three weeks after installing: it is slow, unpredictable, and difficult to navigate after years of Windows 7. I skipped 8, and I don't have a smart phone yet, so tiles & apps, and hiding menus is just not OK for me!

I do hate it, but I suppose I will eventually get over that. Definitely bloatware, IMHO

Well If installed correctly, Windows is not slow at all, faster than Windows 7 Pro. Which I was running for long time on two computers. Their ARE programs that do come with Windows 10 that I believe the user should be able to remove, no question about that!! How you install windows 10 makes a big difference on how it will run. Updating from one OS to Windows 10 is not the best way, for some it does work, but down the line, fresh install does make a BIG difference on how Windows 10 will perform on your computer.
Also...Welcome to Windows 10 forum!!!
Mike..

OldMike65 said:

Well If installed correctly, Windows is not slow at all, faster than Windows 7 Pro. Which I was running for long time on two computers. Their ARE programs that do come with Windows 10 that I believe the user should be able to remove, no question about that!! How you install windows 10 makes a big difference on how it will run. Updating from one OS to Windows 10 is not the best way, for some it does work, but down the line, fresh install does make a BIG difference on how Windows 10 will perform on your computer.
Also...Welcome to Windows 10 forum!!!
Mike..

Thanks for the welcome, and the advice: I see this advice to use a new install around, but too late of course! But WTF, I am so NOT impressed: MS produces an update that is the wrong way to install their product? Geez!

I had a very recent, presumably clean, install of Windows 7 (due to power failure and crash on my PC). I had restored my user data, and reinstalled only the applications I use regularly. Once things looked OK, I installed Windows 10 as an update.

It seems slower in general, and keeps me waiting more often, but I don't have any metrics. I will have to think about doing a clean install, once I have good backups in order.