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  1.    29 Sep 2015 #61

    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    Is that for SMS messages or Apples Messenger service that takes over texts?
    I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but I'll answer it this way -- Apple has an app called MESSAGES that lives on your computer. It is essentially just like the one on the iPhone -- and they are in sync. So suppose you're at your computer and someone texts you from your phone SMS. There's no need to pick up the iPhone and reply. You can use your Mac to do so.

    Even cooler (but kinda weird) is suppose you're upstairs in your house but you left your iPhone downstairs. Or in the car. Or at work. Your Mac will see the incoming call and give you a chance to answer it. So any Mac you have is like an 'extension' of your iPhone.
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  2.    29 Sep 2015 #62
    Join Date : Jul 2014
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    Thanks
    That's what I thought you meant

    I prefer to receive/send standard SMS messages, not have them re route through Apple servers (or anyone elses)
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  3.    29 Sep 2015 #63

    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    Thanks
    That's what I thought you meant

    I prefer to receive/send standard SMS messages, not have them re route through Apple servers (or anyone elses)
    Last time I checked it's impossible to send or receive SMS without someone elses servers. Mine go thru AT&T. Who do yours go thru?
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  4.    29 Sep 2015 #64
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pool Man View Post
    Last time I checked it's impossible to send or receive SMS without someone elses servers. Mine go thru AT&T. Who do yours go thru?
    Yes, but they also must go through Apple's servers in order for Apple to forward them to your computer. That was his argument, that you were introducing yet another privacy busting middleman.

    For that matter, I can do the same thing with Google Voice. I can send and receive SMS's on my pc or phone.
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  5.    29 Sep 2015 #65

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Yes, but they also must go through Apple's servers in order for Apple to forward them to your computer. That was his argument --
    No it wasn't. He said

    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    I prefer to receive/send standard SMS messages, not have them re route through Apple servers (or anyone elses)
    Your phone carrier is someone else. And so the pretense of 'protecting your privacy' is shattered at that point. Not to mention that Google's business model is snooping where Apple's isn't*.

    Back to point -- I was listing this phone feature as a difference between operating systems. Not a selling point which every computer user must embrace. And so if someone doesn't want this feature it doesn't mean that everyone doesn't want it. Or that the Apple OS lacks features which critically differentiate it from Windows and Linux. (And vice versa.)

    * as far as mere mortals can tell
    Last edited by The Pool Man; 29 Sep 2015 at 16:13.
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  6.    10 Dec 2015 #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneZ View Post
    Can't wait for native gaming to fully and completely come to Linux. Then there will never be a need for Windows ever again.
    Hold that thought: I like it! But unfortunately reality is different for most of us. Many of us don't really want to spend that many hours integrating new printers, scanners, disks, etc. or updating & configuring our systems. I don't think any of the UNIX based packages for PC's compare if the goal is to really get work done with a good choice of s/w. They all require just a bit more time, energy, and knowledge for system management. Fine if someone is paying me to do the work; not fine for my own needs. My time is for production, not tweaking my system.

    BUT Windows 10 is driving me up the wall three weeks after installing: it is slow, unpredictable, and difficult to navigate after years of Windows 7. I skipped 8, and I don't have a smart phone yet, so tiles & apps, and hiding menus is just not OK for me!

    I do hate it, but I suppose I will eventually get over that. Definitely bloatware, IMHO
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  7.    10 Dec 2015 #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandra View Post
    Hold that thought: I like it! But unfortunately reality is different for most of us. Many of us don't really want to spend that many hours integrating new printers, scanners, disks, etc. or updating & configuring our systems. I don't think any of the UNIX based packages for PC's compare if the goal is to really get work done with a good choice of s/w. They all require just a bit more time, energy, and knowledge for system management. Fine if someone is paying me to do the work; not fine for my own needs. My time is for production, not tweaking my system.

    BUT Windows 10 is driving me up the wall three weeks after installing: it is slow, unpredictable, and difficult to navigate after years of Windows 7. I skipped 8, and I don't have a smart phone yet, so tiles & apps, and hiding menus is just not OK for me!

    I do hate it, but I suppose I will eventually get over that. Definitely bloatware, IMHO
    Well If installed correctly, Windows is not slow at all, faster than Windows 7 Pro. Which I was running for long time on two computers. Their ARE programs that do come with Windows 10 that I believe the user should be able to remove, no question about that!! How you install windows 10 makes a big difference on how it will run. Updating from one OS to Windows 10 is not the best way, for some it does work, but down the line, fresh install does make a BIG difference on how Windows 10 will perform on your computer.
    Also...Welcome to Windows 10 forum!!!
    Mike..
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  8.    10 Dec 2015 #68
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    Adapting is a keyword, I gave up getting world to adapt to me long time ago. Specially if I can't do anything about something, It's like everything else in nature, adapt or die out. Hardware adapting to software and vice versa.
    If an OS can do most/everything for you why not use it. Her I am at 9th or 10th Linux in last week only and can't find one that can monitor sound input on the speakers. As it's one of most important things I need, no matter how good/bad/ugly OS is it's no good for me. Another thing about Windows vs, Linux is lack drivers and HW settings and customizing it on Linux. One could be madly in love with it but if it's not doing what's needed it just ain't good enough.
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  9.    10 Dec 2015 #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Well If installed correctly, Windows is not slow at all, faster than Windows 7 Pro. Which I was running for long time on two computers. Their ARE programs that do come with Windows 10 that I believe the user should be able to remove, no question about that!! How you install windows 10 makes a big difference on how it will run. Updating from one OS to Windows 10 is not the best way, for some it does work, but down the line, fresh install does make a BIG difference on how Windows 10 will perform on your computer.
    Also...Welcome to Windows 10 forum!!!
    Mike..
    Thanks for the welcome, and the advice: I see this advice to use a new install around, but too late of course! But WTF, I am so NOT impressed: MS produces an update that is the wrong way to install their product? Geez!

    I had a very recent, presumably clean, install of Windows 7 (due to power failure and crash on my PC). I had restored my user data, and reinstalled only the applications I use regularly. Once things looked OK, I installed Windows 10 as an update.

    It seems slower in general, and keeps me waiting more often, but I don't have any metrics. I will have to think about doing a clean install, once I have good backups in order.
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  10.    10 Dec 2015 #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandra View Post
    Thanks for the welcome, and the advice: I see this advice to use a new install around, but too late of course! But WTF, I am so NOT impressed: MS produces an update that is the wrong way to install their product? Geez!

    I had a very recent, presumably clean, install of Windows 7 (due to power failure and crash on my PC). I had restored my user data, and reinstalled only the applications I use regularly. Once things looked OK, I installed Windows 10 as an update.

    It seems slower in general, and keeps me waiting more often, but I don't have any metrics. I will have to think about doing a clean install, once I have good backups in order.
    Two good tutorials here on the forum:
    Windows 10 ISO Download - Windows 10 Forums[2]=Installation%20and%20Setup
    Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Forums
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