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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 393
    10 pro 64 clean install
       27 Sep 2015 #21

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    First off there is no way to make a perfect OS. With over 55 million lines of code there is no way to get all of the bugs out of it. And being in IT I can attest that trying to get a 100K line program perfect is a huge challenge.,

    This has nothing to do with greed.. it's all about the issue of size of the OS's code base.

    Jeff
    We live in a world were by you create something not to last for a long time because if you were to create something really good in the long run you will not profit much from it . Good example would be Windows XP, even until this day there are still many using it even knowing its not supported ain't long, why ? because its simple to use and it does what needed for most . That's another reason why they stop supporting it .... Spend, spend and spend . Most people in general don't need an new operating system
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  2. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 6,972
    All kinds
       27 Sep 2015 #22

    sn00ker said: View Post
    That's another reason why they stop supporting it .... Spend, spend and spend . Most people in general don't need an new operating system
    Than they can stay on it but unfortunately, computer tech is going forward and staying with an obsolete system that can't keep up with HW will not be of any use for newer SW.
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  3. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,928
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       27 Sep 2015 #23

    To me it's not a question of having the perfect OS, it's having the perfect Desktop.
    With Windows 10, I have finally achieved this.
    I run Ubuntu in a VM and Windows as an anchor.
    If I want to do something on the fly I use File Explorer, if it's more complicated I can use Nautilus in Ubuntu or even 7Zip in windows. Customization or Audio Visual, again my VM.
    Windows 10 and Ubuntu, both, use so little resources I can afford to run my VM all the time, being my CPU is the bottleneck on my system, that makes Windows 10 as a host OS my #1 choice.
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Sep 2015 #24

    sn00ker said: View Post
    We live in a world were by you create something not to last for a long time because if you were to create something really good in the long run you will not profit much from it . Good example would be Windows XP, even until this day there are still many using it even knowing its not supported ain't long, why ? because its simple to use and it does what needed for most . That's another reason why they stop supporting it .... Spend, spend and spend . Most people in general don't need an new operating system
    Life is about change and moving forward and not staying static. People in general want new and better things then they have previously. It's not about cooperate greed but it's about the desire for better products. While Xp was a nice OS it's time has come and gone. Now with WIn8.1/Win10 we have a more secure and efficient OS that fits the needs of today's users.
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  5. Joined : Jul 2015
    Eastbourne East Sussex UK
    Posts : 2,445
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 143934.693
       27 Sep 2015 #25

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Life is about change and moving forward and not staying static. People in general want new and better things then they have previously. It's not about cooperate greed but it's about the desire for better products. While Xp was a nice OS it's time has come and gone. Now with WIn8.1/Win10 we have a more secure and efficient OS that fits the needs of today's users.
    Too true been a long time coming and at last they woke up and listened to us the users, and also at last a new Browser that works without crashing.

    So well done Microsoft
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  6.    27 Sep 2015 #26

    CountMike said: View Post
    I have seen a comment from a guy berating 10 and switching back to 7 because Solitaire is not as good.
    Hi there

    I posted a link where you can install and run those old W7 games on W10 --works fine --some people just open their mouths TOO quickly before doing a little bit of research.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7.    27 Sep 2015 #27

    Hi there
    @BunnyJ -- some things will last a long time --great artwork. a good building, decent hand crafted wooden furniture etc. It's not 100% hopeless these days. I must admit as far as NON classical music is concerned however I have yet to hear a piece I like that was composed after about 1979. !!! The modern stuff to me sounds too much like electronic interference and mechanical Road Drills --usually THUMP THUMP type of nightclub stuff with about as much emotion as an electric kettle.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8.    27 Sep 2015 #28

    sn00ker said: View Post
    If you make a perfect ( anything ) car, tv, PC, power tools, operating system, how many do you think you can sell or better yet how much profit will you make in the long run ? To make lots of money is to make something not so perfect, this way you continue to feed the greedy corrupt stockholders ...
    Oh yeah, And I like X

    Hi there

    excuse a bit of Politics here (in this case it's relevant though). Companies like Ms NEED investors to finance stuff --it's impossible to finance really large projects via Bank Loans or Cash in the Bank. -- Also as a semi retiree- I'm glad my Pension was decently invested --how many people think they could live their retirement just relying on a State Pension --even in more generous countries such as the Nordic ones and Germany. By lending to these corporations (via Pension Funds / directly etc) individual investors actually get a chance to receive a payback from any profits.

    These days with healthy life styles it's easy to think of huge swathes of people living to 100 or beyond -- it's already happening in several countries. If you say retire at 60 / 65 you could expect another 40 years or so ON A PENSION --probably LONGER in retirement than actually in Work !!.

    I know this is a bit political --but this is really relevant -- and we shouldn't try and stop companies like Ms from making money --and being innovative does involve risk taking.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Sep 2015 #29

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there
    @BunnyJ -- some things will last a long time --great artwork. a good building, decent hand crafted wooden furniture etc. It's not 100% hopeless these days. I must admit as far as NON classical music is concerned however I have yet to hear a piece I like that was composed after about 1979. !!! The modern stuff to me sounds too much like electronic interference and mechanical Road Drills --usually THUMP THUMP type of nightclub stuff with about as much emotion as an electric kettle.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I agree that art and music can be timeless but when it comes to technology it has to be moving forward or it(the OS) dies.. just like a shark and Xp.. well. It's a dead shark.
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  10.    27 Sep 2015 #30

    CountMike said: View Post
    Than they can stay on it but unfortunately, computer tech is going forward and staying with an obsolete system that can't keep up with HW will not be of any use for newer SW.
    I'm interested here, and please don't think I'm being sarky or anything, but what newer software?

    What new software (apart from Games) has been written for legacy Windows since, I don't know, 1992?

    Nothing right? Updates for Office with better spell check, bigger version of Photoshop, bigger version of PDF reader, the odd utility to do something the OS should do anyway.

    If you can name ONE new program written in the last decade (or even 2 decades) that did anything new (not an upgrade or a rip-off but something genuinely NEW) then I'll eat my hat.
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