Windows 10: I hate W10

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  1.    26 Sep 2015 #11

    BoneZ said: View Post
    Can't wait for native gaming to fully and completely come to Linux. Then there will never be a need for Windows ever again.
    I can't wait for quality but affordable laptops with native Linux installs. (I know there are some, but you know what I mean.)

    The Asus Zenbook UX305? Optimized for Ubuntu distros? $599-699? Sold.
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  2.    26 Sep 2015 #12

    Mark Phelps said: View Post
    There is NOT going to be a Windows "11". MS announced some time ago that Windows 10 is the last version they're going to develop and distribute. Windows is now shifting to an incremental model where features will be added over time, but instead of having to upgrade to a new OS version, you'll be able to download and install the features -- but some will require a fee to do that.
    Thank goodness MS is finally thinking with a collective brain. The PC I'm sitting @ currently running Win7 came with Vista. So in the six years have had this machine could have upgraded almost on a yearly basis (7, 8, 8.1 & now 10). That's too darn often for us, I guess "normal people", a phrase I keep reading here.

    BTW - WinX rocks IMO. Installed it on the laptop, disabled / removed / shutdown lots of overhead & our laptop runs faster on WinX than it did on 7. That's a pleasant surprise & like the look as well. After running Win8 during the test phase, not impressed, very happy to see MS got it right in WinX. Looking forward to installing it on the desktop & making use of Cortana.

    & it's free, good job MS
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       27 Sep 2015 #13

    Mystere said: View Post

    Windows as we knew it is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. Each new release, another chunk falls off the shuffling corpse. Apparently lots of users don't know it yet either, and keep thinking that smell is the new OS. It's not, it's the old one.
    @Mystere
    Very well written Every WinRt (or XAML) article or blog should start with that paragraph
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  4.    27 Sep 2015 #14

    Hi there.

    if you are a Mac user it's easy to run Windows -- run as bootcamp / parallels or other VM software. We have plenty of people at work using Macs running Windows as a VM for accessing corporate applications etc. There's no need to buy a PC simply to use Windows if you are a Mac user.

    As far as W10 is concerned I think it works just fine --although have a few issues with it when using external monitors plugged into old laptops --- not being able to alter system fonts for menus, title bars etc makes these monitors sometimes not very readable. (Note I'm not talking here about altering the Font SIZE but changing the actual system fonts to use something more readable -- this feature was available on XP / W7 etc).

    Running IOS on a Mac does not automatically isolate you from malware as recent exploits have shown either. Even Linux can get hacked into - so it's up to you the user to use whatever machine you have intelligently.

    I will abandon windows / any app if advertising becomes too obtrusive -- so far though it hasn't happened yet -- at least not to the base OS.

    If I have to pay for system updates then that's another matter where I would consider switching the OS. Of course I'd pay for a new release - but for updates and fixes --- no thanks.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5.    27 Sep 2015 #15

    I have seen a comment from a guy berating 10 and switching back to 7 because Solitaire is not as good.
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       27 Sep 2015 #16

    CountMike said: View Post
    I have seen a comment from a guy berating 10 and switching back to 7 because Solitaire is not as good.
    Tahell with system security! Tahell with being faster! Tahell with a smaller footprint! Tahell with using less resources! Dammit! Soittaire just iz-int the same! Click image for larger version. 

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  7.    27 Sep 2015 #17

    CountMike said: View Post
    I have seen a comment from a guy berating 10 and switching back to 7 because Solitaire is not as good.
    The new Solitaire is horrid though. I just installed the old one from 8 (and minesweeper and so on) - it seemed a less drastic response.
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       27 Sep 2015 #18

    There isn't a decent o/s out there. The Mac brigade comes across as a bunch of true-believer snobs (I know several personally and they have a Jehovah's Witness look in their eyes when they talk about Mac vs. Windows. It's hard to tolerate the smugness they exude. Macs are all snob reputation and nothing to back up the hype.

    Sadly Microsoft have messed up every other release. Win98 finally got good but was so unstable as it was running on top of DOS. They screwed up with WinME but after a year of updates Windows XP became really excellent and I stuck with it until a couple of years back.
    But Windows Vista was dog-dodo and it took that rubbish to create Windows 7 which was the best and most reliable Microsoft operating system ever, in my opinion.
    Then came the corporate suicide attempt that was Windows 8.x. I tried to use it twice and I came close to dumping Windows altogether as Windows 7 has USB issues that they never bothered to fix.

    And now we have Windows 10. I have been cautiously using it in dual-boot with the trustworthy Windows 7 and finally I have decided it is reliable enough to make it my primary o/s.

    Yes there are still issues, as anyone who has experience with new operating systems expects, and it can take six months to a year to iron out these annoyances. But I feel, on balance, Windows 10 is good. Once you've disabled all the awful spying rubbish. I don't mind the forced-down-our-throats updates as Win10 is just out of the box and we need all the bug-fixes we can get for now. After the first service-pack stage I may find auto-updates less useful and more intrusive but hopefully there will be 3rd party apps out there to give us more control by then.

    As a Windows 7 user I find Windows 10 so similar that I forget I am not using W7. I had to use a 3rd party start-menu app so I could get some control over the Start Menu and All Programs lists and I think this is something Microsoft NEEDS to make customizable as it is just awful at present. But these are early doors for this new o/s. Who knows where it will be in a year?

    So for those who say they 'hate' Windows 10 maybe you are expecting too much, too early in the game. After all, its only a computer. As long as the operating system facilitates our computer needs and doesn't fight us what more do you want?
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  9.    27 Sep 2015 #19

    If you make a perfect ( anything ) car, tv, PC, power tools, operating system, how many do you think you can sell or better yet how much profit will you make in the long run ? To make lots of money is to make something not so perfect, this way you continue to feed the greedy corrupt stockholders ...
    Oh yeah, And I like X
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  10.    27 Sep 2015 #20

    sn00ker said: View Post
    If you make a perfect ( anything ) car, tv, PC, power tools, operating system, how many do you think you can sell or better yet how much profit will you make in the long run ? To make lots of money is to make something not so perfect, this way you continue to feed the greedy corrupt stockholders
    First off there is no way to make a perfect OS. With over 55 million lines of code there is no way to get all of the bugs out of it. And being in IT I can attest that trying to get a 100K line program perfect is a huge challenge.,

    This has nothing to do with greed.. it's all about the issue of size of the OS's code base.

    Jeff
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