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  1.    15 Sep 2015 #11

    hTconeM9user said: View Post
    Too right an expert would know that is why they test all the time and recommend installing antiviruses,
    funny they has not replied perhaps they have caught a virus.
    I also have been doing and helping on computers for the last 10 years when windows 98 was out and was told even then, before you go online make sure your firewall is on and antivirus is working and up to date, and no way would I go online or any forum or troll the internet without being protected without antivirus being installed.

    Don't like Crome and Edge is fast IE11 kept freezing on me as I have disabled it and uninstalled it and laptop good as gold
    I would have replied, but I was asleep As for not using an Antivirus, like i said, it's a personal choice. If i get a virus, which is hardly ever, MAYBE once a year, i'll format the drive and do a clean install. No biggie.
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  2.    15 Sep 2015 #12

    hTconeM9user said: View Post
    Even the experts recommend some sort of antivirus and avast used to be good but now slows the machine t is on down too much.
    Even with all I have installed on my laptop as I say it is fast.
    If you went on a certain social site that I go on a lot you would always be reinstalling windows 10 as it has bugs on it all the time.

    Also who wants to spend 4 to 5 hours at a time doing a format and reinstall and putting all the programs back in I certainly do not, that is why my laptop is fully protected with McAfee and so is the router in the house and all the phones and other ipads that everyone uses.
    I have nothing else better to do lol Anyway, the last time I used McAfee was in the mid-2000s. Resource hog. Has that changed? I also have a paid version of Malwarebytes and SuperAntispyware. I don't use them.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,338
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       15 Sep 2015 #13

    ukcatsfan83 said: View Post
    I have nothing else better to do lol Anyway, the last time I used McAfee was in the mid-2000s. Resource hog. Has that changed? I also have a paid version of Malwarebytes and SuperAntispyware. I don't use them.
    Not to be rude, or anything like it, but why did you buy, paid for, software that you don't use? It is a bit confusing.... ???
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  4. Joined : Mar 2015
    Philadelphia
    Posts : 1,072
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       15 Sep 2015 #14

    The problem is, and an expert would understand this, is that without any protection software, you may not realize you've had an infection or worse, a rootkit. The software doesn't just protect against infections, but warns the user if something suspicious is going on. It's a personal choice whether or not I drop a cinder block on my toes. That doesn't mean both options are valid choices, especially by someone describing themselves as an expert.

    Mcafee hasn't changed, and still a steaming pile of crap. It was a resource hog, so I suspect your bad experience with it is the reason why you don't want to run any current software. If you were to choose something much better, it would have zero impact on your systems performance. Combine that with excellent system specs, and there's no reason not to run something.
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  5. Joined : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 6,525
    Win 10 Pro (1607)
       15 Sep 2015 #15

    A thought on Windows Defender- presumably you have turned it off completely. In Win 10, turning it off conventionally is temporary- my first experience was of it using a lot of CPU time and causing significant lag. As you are choosing not to use a different AV, this may be useful.

    Completely Disable Windows Defender in windows 10 | MalwareTips.com
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,511
    Windows 10 Pro
       15 Sep 2015 #16

    ukcatsfan83 said: View Post
    Why? Because to me, it seems like Windows 10 is still buggy! I don't like the fact that I can't remove Windows Defender, and/or uninstall/disable some programs that I know i won't use. There are Windows software that are locked into this that eats my RAM and causes my PC to lag, which p*sses me off more than anything. I have an 8 Core processor, 16GB RAM and an SSD. I should NOT have any lag at all.
    ukcatsfan83 said: View Post
    I pretty much consider myself an expert, so i don't use anti-viruses. IF i accidently get a virus, I dont mess around with it. I will perform a clean install that way I know 100% for sure all the remnants are gone.

    I don't want:

    IE11
    Edge
    Windows Defender
    Cortana
    OneDrive
    An expert should know better, I very much doubt your expertise and knowledge. None of the applications you listed have absolutely none whatsoever effect in your computer's performance when not used even when not removed. None of the applications you listed is the culprit if your PC lags.

    IE11 and Edge do not consume any RAM when not used. Defender is on by default but can be turned off, OneDrive and Cortana need to be enabled, setup by user, by default they are off.

    In my case, I use all those application. Just now, the PC having been on and heavily used about 9 hours but the browsers in your list not used at the moment (using Maxthon to browse the forums), rest of them are consuming about 100 MB of RAM altogether at the moment. That's roughly 1/120th of my installed 12 GB of RAM, so little that I wouldn't even notice if that was suddenly released.

    Your statement about you being an expert is very strongly contradicted by the fact that you seem not to know the basics.

    Kari
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  7. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 615
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (build 10586)
       15 Sep 2015 #17

    If you want to disable IE, you still can. However, you can't uninstall it like you were able to in XP/98/whatever.
    Here's how, although I find it useful in case Chrome or Firefox stops working and you have to re-download it.
    1. Search for turn windows features on or off and click it in the search results.
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    5. Restart for the changes to finish.
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  8. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 615
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (build 10586)
       15 Sep 2015 #18

    Edge is the other way around. You can't disable it as it is part of the operating system, and you aren't supposed to remove it, but you can remove it using a Powershell command.


    1. Simply open up Powershell as an administrator.
    2. Once there, type Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers and press Enter.
    3. In the window, info about the apps on your computer will appear. Find Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge next to Name.
    4. Drag your mouse over the info next PackageFullName and press Ctrl+C to copy it. (e.g. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_20.10240.16384.0_neutral__8wekyb3d8bbwe)
    5. Type Remove-AppxPackage Name, pasting the PackageFullName in place of "Name", and press Enter.
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  9. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 615
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (build 10586)
       15 Sep 2015 #19

    I would not remove Cortana. That will break the search features of the operating system, at least the search feature of the Start menu. The search features in File Explorer and replacement Start menus such as Classic Shell will still work, I believe. To disable it, though, open Task Manager, find Cortana, right click it, click Open File Location which will open a File Explorer window, go back to the Task Manager, right click Cortana, click End task, and then return to File Explorer and rename the folder that was selected (my folder is named Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy) when it opened to something else. I would rename it to *whateverthepreviousnamewas*BAK, so if I ever wanted to start using the Start menu search again, I could just remove BAK and restart.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,338
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       16 Sep 2015 #20

    Kari said: View Post
    An expert should know better, I very much doubt your expertise and knowledge. None of the applications you listed have absolutely none whatsoever effect in your computer's performance when not used even when not removed. None of the applications you listed is the culprit if your PC lags.

    IE11 and Edge do not consume any RAM when not used. Defender is on by default but can be turned off, OneDrive and Cortana need to be enabled, setup by user, by default they are off.

    In my case, I use all those application. Just now, the PC having been on and heavily used about 9 hours but the browsers in your list not used at the moment (using Maxthon to browse the forums), rest of them are consuming about 100 MB of RAM altogether at the moment. That's roughly 1/120th of my installed 12 GB of RAM, so little that I wouldn't even notice if that was suddenly released.

    Your statement about you being an expert is very strongly contradicted by the fact that you seem not to know the basics.

    Kari
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