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Still awaiting comment on any GPU driver update. Sometimes using an older driver works.
So the problem is that after 40-50 minutes stopping gaming, the screen goes blank but the computer keeps on running. Have you tried pressing the Ctrl-Shift-Windows-B keys? It's for Windows 11 or 10. It once recovered video in a Win11 miniPC here, a mostly stable computer with Celeron J4125 (a 7W processor/GPU for light tasks). As for the original cause, have you ever run a Windows session of 40-50 minutes or more without gaming? I think any thermal or stress effect of gaming would have gone away after so much time.
I also have an old computer with Windows 7, that has sporadic loses of video like that. It has an MSI MPG A650GF 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular PSU 1.5 years old, although I have better suspects starting with the old HD4890. When booting up it might lose the splash screen and even the final Windows screen. Last time it did lose video, it was while recording an image backup. I left it on till the HD led stopped and some more, shut it down with the power switch, and after booting up I saw the backup had been successful according to Macrium Reflect's log, also with normal times, file sizes etc.
PS: possibly I've misunderstood the title, but many points of the post are valid. I'll add some. If you meant that the screen goes blank while gaming, the "40-50 minutes" interval is somewhat mysterious. Thermal and stress conditions and all posible software conditions that I can think of, would be the same after 5 minutes and after 75 minutes as after 40-50 minutes. Does this happen in a concrete gaming screen of with a concrete game title?
Last edited by JLArranz; 21 Mar 2024 at 12:10. Reason: Improving the post
So i tried it with the new driver update (released two days ago) but it is still the same, in my opinion it is related to GPU.
the GPU cant run the high-graphic games for some reason, but League and Valorant are exception, i don't really know why.
so i should concider buying a new GPU i guess.
Also i tried resetting the GPU with the Win+Shift+CTRL+B method and it didn't work as well.
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Even if i buy a new GPU, i will be trying to solve the problem.
But for now i can't.
Also i would like to ask, should i buy the AMD RX6600 (8GB) or ARC A750 (8GB)?
My thought was to ensure you tried this using the same version of the driver that previously worked... that's assuming there might have been an update. If in fact there was none, then it's not a driver issue anyway.
We now don't know if there was any update that may have caused this problem, and the rollback option- if there was one- has been lost now you've installed the later driver.
From what I know unless you have new information.
A.A setting in the bios/ueif is telling your machine to turn off if heat searcher a certain heat range. In my previous machines
they had alarms on them that would scream when it went to hot. You can adjust this setting in the bios/uefi.
B. Your GPU is not getting enough power from your PSU and the system shutsdown due to a power failure.
Even if you have "more then enough" for your GPU you need to understand those numbers are only suggestive and you
should have the maximum amount your PC will ( can pull ). Your GPU might use 200W but in reality it could use 500W .
Same with your HD/SSD access and idle, along with the CPU ( which is another power-hog ). , and Memory.
C. Another component like the CPU or GPU CPU has a heat problem. It is affecting your computer badily it stops functioning.
Try replacing these components to see if the problem occurs.
D. RAM memory problems ????
E. Maybe an on board chipset is problematic. Maybe a bad capacitor, or something needs attention.
F. Your online and your wireles / network adapter is making too much heat
G. Your online and some program is hijacking your computer.
H. Your GPU adapter turns offf or switches modes.. Maybe your built in GPU adapter needs to be turned off
I have been down most of those roads and Have seen machines sparks, small fires, smoke, and so many other horrors.
I also was thinking about the ''power problem'', is there any way for me to check if the GPU is getting enough Watt?
I don't think i have some kind of tempreture problem, because i've already done the tests.
So by any chance if there is a way for me to know/set the Watt please let me know.
Also i don't know but there can be a possibility that my Motherboard causes the issue, i'm not really sure.
I mean asides power it could be a connection problem as well. Like something is causing the reset. When the reset happens
are you online? 50 minutes into a game must be creating a heating issue, or power-drain at some point. Have you tried running
tests on the GPU unit, with official testers to see if you could recreate the problem. Or is it a specific program you are running?
( I forget the term ) but you have special plugs you can plug into a wall between the plug to the computer
and the outlet. This would instantly show you how many Watts you are pulling from the machine.
( IDK this stuff by heart ), but you have commands to check how many joules your pulling or even possible watts.
You also have "CPUID HWMonitor" ( Hard ware monitor ) which I use a lot. It might be able to show how much
you are currently pulling and the previous/current high along with other information.
Microsoft also had the "Joule Meter" which you could still find online somewhere. ( I might be thinking about something else),
because there was also this program "Killitall" or "Enditall" ( I forget ) where you could view information and literally kill any process.I forget but I remember a list of Wattage, KWh of every single instance perfectly aline just like "Process Hacker 2".
I forget this was from the Vista days. Joule Meter has been merged into Visual Studio apparently. For testing purposes.
Another thing you could try is testing the RAM with Memtest86+. You use it to create a bootable flash drive. That way you could boot with this flash drive and test the RAM independent of Windows 10.
Memtest86+
Download Windows USB Installer (32/64 bits)
Everyone is so fixated on the power nobody realizes that the stability of the power could also be the problem. The power supply I had that gave problems put out more than enough power but proved to unstable under load.
The 80 Plus rating for the MSI MAG A600DN only says it passed the minimum rating of 80%. I am still uncertain about the MSI MAG A600DN 80 Plus power supply. It is impossible to make a good judgment because I have not been able find a good review of it. The ones I could find were merely people unboxing it and reading the specs. Also, the only place I found it for sale was on Ebay. I am not saying the new power supply is bad but I would not rule it out.
Right now you are only guessing what the problem is. You don't even know for sure whether it is a hardware or software problem. You could rule out software by doing a clean install of Windows. Do you have another drive you could use? If so remove all the current drives and reinstall Windows on the new drive. That would at least show whether the hardware or software was the problem.