Get error trying to move Documents folder to new drive

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  1. Posts : 61
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    Thread Starter
       #21

    I do agree with Spunk as that "sounds" logical. However, I think I might wait a little while before I try it.
    Thanks
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  2. Posts : 43,021
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       #22

    What I created is a System Image created by Backup and Restore (Windows 7). Hopefully I'll never need it.
    You really shouldn't use that- deprecated, unsupported.

    Far better to routinely use a much more robust at fully featured 3rd party solution- even MS says so.
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  3. Posts : 691
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       #23

    As you can see here, Public Folders are moved to (G:) Just 2 small steps.

    Get error trying to move Documents folder to new drive-2024-02-17_090219.png

    But you like it complicated and prefer a ruinous way. Do you run a backup before you execute a copy&paste or cut&paste command or do you trust that command?
    I do not and I do not see any reason! But in this case the problem is the person in front of the PC
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  4. Posts : 16,963
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       #24

    jack63ss said:
    What I created is a System Image created by Backup and Restore (Windows 7). Hopefully I'll never need it.
    I agree with dalchina.
    MS told us to stop using Backup and Restore (Windows 7) for system images seven years ago.
    my ditty - File backup vs imaging, imaging utilities, backing up drivers [post #3] - TenForums

    Since you said you had manually re-written your
    HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
    would you mind posting a screenshot of it or perhaps you could just say that it now looks like a typical one?
    Get error trying to move Documents folder to new drive-brandnewuser-usershellfolders.png


    Did you ever remember what made that Backup Registry entry?


    All the best,
    Denis
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  5. Posts : 61
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       #25

    The whole System Image thing confuses me. I found an entry in answers.microsoft.com from 2021 that said to use Backup and Restore (Windows 7), so if Microsoft said to stop using it, the left and right hands are not together. Gets back to what I said earlier about there being multiple ways to do everything in Windows. And I do NOT use B&R for file backup, I actually use Norton.

    As for the backup entry, not sure as I don't think I have ever run a 3rd party cleanup tool or anything. Like I said, I have been using a shortcut for a long time, so I'll just continue doing that.
    Thanks !!!!
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  6. Posts : 338
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       #26

    @Pentagon

    I've been coming to this site for many years and have always found the regulars here to be knowledgeable, helpful, and respectful people. And then you came along. I've been watching your posts over the last few months and I've never seen anyone as arrogant, disrespectful and convinced of their own greatness. You really should tone it down!
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  7. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #27

    jack63ss said:
    The whole System Image thing confuses me
    If you had the ability to copy every single folder & every single file, including their properties [such as, but not limited to, security properties], from all parts of your computer's OS disk onto a backup disk then that would be, in effect, a system image.
    The trouble is that Windows is not designed to allow us such access. It limits our access so we cannot damage the OS.
    Imaging utilities get themselves the access necessary to do the job. They take the opportunity to do other useful things at the same time such as to compress the files heavily so that the image they make is only, say, half the size of the OS disk that's been copied.
    So a system image is just a copy of the OS disk albeit one that we could not make using File explorer.

    You've used Windows backup & restore [Windows 7]. That has two parts
    1 A utility for making simple file copies of disks***, and/or
    2 A utility for making 'image' copies of disks.
    Neither part is worth writing home about.
    1 There are thousands of ways of making simple file copies. I normally use the sophisticated built-in command RoboCopy but there are utilities available to do your copies that do not have such a steep learning curve. You use Norton ["Norton backup"?] for the job.
    2 Utilities such as Macrium Reflect, Acronis True Image or the easy-to-use Aomei Backupper make images and they do so whilst including much greater flexibility than the built-in Windows equivalent does [which would not, just for example, allow you to make an image of just your M:\ drive].
    1 A simple file copy of a disk can only successfully be used to restore a disk to its original state if that disk contains only your own datafiles. It would not restore the functionality of that disk if it contained any OS components.
    2 An image can be restored to a drive using imaging utilities in such as way that its functionality is also restored to its original state. An image can be also restored to a drive using imaging utilities even if that drive does not have any OS components so many people use them for all their drives even though they don't have to.


    *** Your first mention of your backup made me think that you'd just used it to make a simple file copy of the disk but I was not at all sure [I have not used that utility for years].


    Denis
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  8. Posts : 61
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    Thread Starter
       #28

    I really only did the system image part as a couple of replies to my original issue mentioned doing a backup before trying to move the Documents folder and I was just being overly cautious. I never expected to use it to do a restore, as like I said, I use Norton and it backs up online on a weekly basis (like it did yesterday). All I was really trying to do was get the Documents links in File Explorer to point to a different location, which I have still not gotten to happen. I've gotten a lot of comments on doing it, but so far have not hit one that will work on my system. So I think for now I am going to leave it as is until I figure out what the "Can't move the folder because there is a folder in the same location that can't be redirected. Access is denied." issue is.
    Thanks
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  9. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #29

    jack63ss said:
    So I think for now I am going to leave it as is until I figure out what the "Can't move the folder because there is a folder in the same location that can't be redirected. Access is denied." issue is.
    Jack,

    The issue is that Windows thinks your Document user folder path contains the user folder path of another 'user', Public.
    Windows refuses to handle the situation.

    Whilst other things might be worth trying, I still think a Clean install is the only solution.


    Denis
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  10. Posts : 43,021
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #30

    jack63ss said:
    The whole System Image thing confuses me. I found an entry in answers.microsoft.com from 2021 that said to use Backup and Restore (Windows 7), so if Microsoft said to stop using it, the left and right hands are not together. Gets back to what I said earlier about there being multiple ways to do everything in Windows.
    Backup and Restore - Wikipedia

    Microsoft deprecated Backup and Restore in Windows 8.0, recommending to use the File History app for file-based backup and a third-party solution for system imaging. Despite its deprecation, however, it is part of all versions of Windows released thereafter.
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/wi...ectedfrom=MSDN

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...cated-features
    System Image Backup (SIB) Solution This feature is also known as the Backup and Restore (Windows 7) legacy control panel. For full-disk backup solutions, look for a third-party product from another software publisher. You can also use OneDrive to sync data files with Microsoft 365.
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