Now THIS is new: Cloned SSD does not boot – a new twist

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    win10 version 22H2, OS build 19045.3930
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    Now THIS is new: Cloned SSD does not boot – a new twist


    Looked at many posts but did not find a solution.
    I wanted to replace the original Kingston 500GB drive (m.2 PCIe) with m.2 WD 4TB SN850X.
    Acer pc has one m.2 slot, and one PCIe 16 connector.
    • Cloned disk with Macrium.
    • Replaced old disk with clone – no boot. BIOS recognizes new drive (NVMe dev installed), but NSOD.
    • Error code: Kernel security check failure. After three unsuccessful boot attempts get into Win rescue environment: Troubleshoot - Advanced Options – Startup repair – back to Kernel security loop.

    And here comes the twist:
    • Instead of using the m.2 slot for the cloned disk, I installed the clone – and ONLY the clone – via the PCIe connector. Lo and behold, the system boots!??
    • BIOS does NOT recognize the SSD in the PCIe, but still boots.

    • The usual culprits for a BSOD with Kernel security issues include bad disk, driver or memory issues, etc. Obviously this does not apply here, since the cloned disk boots and works fine in the PCIe slot, just not in m.2
    • Both the old and the new SSD are M.2 PCIe

    At this stage I am stuck: BIOS does not recognize the cloned SSD in the PCIe slot, yet Windows boots.
    On the other hand, with the clone in the m.2 slot I get BSOD.
    Any suggestion on how to make the new SSD bootable are very much appreciated!

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  2. Posts : 4,594
    several
       #2

    Guessing the hardware game

    is it tc-895 like this ?
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225955659...yABEgKSAPD_BwE

    presumably you used something like this in the pcie slot
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/glotrends-A...a-563890484345
    WD 4TB SN850X
    Might be a limit on the disk size in the m.2 socket mentioned in the service manual

    Apparently, Acer don't make the service manuals available to the end user. That is enough reason to stay away from Acer.
    Last edited by SIW2; 05 Feb 2024 at 22:55.
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  3. Posts : 7
    win10 version 22H2, OS build 19045.3930
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for the suggestion. Don't think it's a hardware issue, otherwise it would not boot on PCIe either.
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  4. Posts : 669
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #4

    The system boots at least into the recovery environment!
    What is the situation in the screenshot?
    Disk 0 ==> PCIe adapter
    Disk 1 ==> m.2 slot
    Boot into Disk 1 (m.2 slot) and check if you have full access to Disk 0

    You cloned the disk because the old was probably to small. Why don't you use both disks?
    Did you check ACER for BIOS updates.
    If my above suggestion works, just reformat the EFI-Partition from disk 0. (Do not delete that partition!)
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  6. Posts : 7
    win10 version 22H2, OS build 19045.3930
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Aloha Pentagon,
    Yes, Disk 1 is m.2, and disk 0 is on PCIe.
    I do have full access to both drives in that scenario. However, the plan was to move everything to the large ssd and use the PCIe slot for a graphics card. In other words, I really prefer to be able to run with just the large disk.
    Mahalo!
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  7. Posts : 6,347
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #7

    The computer is booting from the new 4T SSD as you can see on the Disk Manager you posted. C: is the partition with Windows and it is on the 4T SSD.
    What is Disk 0 (PCIe or M.2)?


    Install the new 4T SSD on the M.2
    Remove the old SSD from the PCIe
    Enter BIOS and make sure the 4T SSD on the M.2 is the first boot option.

    Does it boot?
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  8. Posts : 669
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #8

    Megahertz said:
    The computer is booting from the new 4T SSD as you can see on the Disk Manager you posted. C: is the partition with Windows and it is on the 4T SSD.
    What is Disk 0 (PCIe or M.2)?


    Install the new 4T SSD on the M.2
    Remove the old SSD from the PCIe
    Enter BIOS and make sure the 4T SSD on the M.2 is the first boot option.

    Does it boot?
    No, it doesn't boot. See post #1
    @captainron
    Make these changes:
    WD 4TB SN850X ==> M.2 slot
    Kingston 500GB ==> PCIe-adapter

    Boot from PCIe (Kingston) (select in BIOS)
    if (F:) = Win Installation drive letter on WD type otherwise use the right letter
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdboot F:\Windows

    The command adds a boot-entry to the Kingston BCD
    If it doesn't boot from that BCD-Entry, it's a Windows problem
    If it boots it's a BCD problem on the WD
    The additional bcd-entry can be removed again later.
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  9. Posts : 8,111
    windows 10
       #9

    Have you checked motherboard manual often M2 drives use different modes and may kill other drives in some modes
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  10. Posts : 6,347
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #10

    The computer is booting from the new 4T SSD as you can see on the Disk Manager you posted. C: is the partition with Windows and it is on the 4T SSD.
    What is Disk 0 (PCIe or M.2)?

    SIW2 found out that the max size of the M.2 drive is 1T. That is why I asked What is Disk 0 (PCIe or M.2)?
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